• poo_22@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 day ago

    There’s some speculation that Meta now controls TikTok. But yes, definitely everyone saying Trump will be worse for Gaza was not an ally to the Palestinians, to put it lightly. The Democrats are in some ways to the right of the guys literally throwing up a Seig Heil, and I am so tired of arguing with libs that just look at aesthetics about it.

  • Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 days ago

    I’m sure they’re hard at work scrubbing all the Pro-Palestine content. No way things continue as they were.

  • ℝ𝔼𝔻 ℂ𝕆𝕃𝕆𝕊𝕊𝕌𝕊@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 days ago

    My theory is that Trump is just shrewd enough to understand when to take a strategic retreat:

    TikTok:

    170 million people are on it and nobody expected ByteDance to put up such a fight, I think they figured they’d sell under enough pressure, probably for a pittance so it wasn’t worth such a potentially radicalizing event, especially with so many Americans migrating to Red Note.

    Israel:

    The truth is Israel pulled out every stop possible and went full holocaust-mode on Palestine, they burned every bridge and severely harmed the soft power of the US and left that of Israel’s in ashes. These past couple of days looks like Israeli propaganda has been going crazy with tonnes of posts on social media with their usual stuff, showing off gay night clubs in Tel-Aviv and pressuring attractive Ashkenazi Israeli girls in full makeup to do stuff in military uniform and despite heavy censorship on these platforms, almost every post is people shitting on them.

    Israel used every ounce of strength and still couldn’t make Hamas any less effective than day zero of the hot war.

    Trump wanted them to win but the fact is that they failed, there’s no other way about it. He just had the decency to tell them it’s time to fucking throw in the towel, lick your wounds and figure out a different way to do this.

  • 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 days ago

    I have seen people posting that their comments of “free Palestine” and similar such things are being deleted with messages saying it’s against tiktok policy. Lots of people don’t trust it and are staying on Red Note because it’s just so much nicer anyway.

    I have no hopes this “ceasefire” will ever be honored. Its a bunch of optics to get people to shut up and go about there loves and forget about it so they can quietly ramp up the killing again.

  • Max@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 days ago

    Let’s not get too carried away. Israel isn’t ending the genocide, they are pausing the most explicitly violent killings to go back to more subtle forms of killing until they decide to launch more military ops on civilians again. With Miriam Adelson being in Trumps ear as well as largely responsible for his campaign funding I cannot imagine he does anything that isn’t explicitly intended to further Israeli goals. The new ambassador to Israel is a guy who thinks ‘the Jews’ need to control Israel for the Christian apocalypse to begin. I can’t see how that will be an improvement for the Palestinians.

    • willxkuzunoha@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Israel and Hezbollah are about to go at it again in around 6 days. This war isn’t over just because there’s an armistice on one front. Israel still hasn’t evacuated southern Lebanon, and Hezbollah will need to expel them.

  • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 days ago

    I’ve seen stuff in passing on twitter that people are having stuff censored in searching TikTok that wasn’t before - but then some others were saying in response that they weren’t. Something glitchy or shady, I don’t know, but I’m keeping an eye out for more clarity cause pretending to fix the issue only to produce a TikTok that is more in line with imperialist propaganda could very well be what is happening. Then again, it’s also possible that shutting that many people out of an app like that can introduce some temporary glitches when you try to bring them back.

  • Coco 📕@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Something is telling me that he is only doing that to get more young voters. (Edit: I could be wrong though.)

  • Glasgow@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    3 days ago

    You think with all the dumb stuff maga believe that you disagree with youd realise these were equally transparent psyops.

    • Justice@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Psyops are when…

      The current “president” (a dead sack of rotting potatoes) signs perhaps the most unpopular law since fucking prohibition of alcohol

      Also when aforementioned potato sack continues to fund and arm a genocidal apartheid state despite every other nation on earth and like 80% of his own fucking party screaming “holy fuck, just stop!”

      And then the incoming, supposedly “worse of two evils” president pulls the rug out from under the dead sack, tells Israel to stop (the future is the future- for now he has ended the genocide), and listens to the millions of addicted social media Americans (his constituents who is obligated to listen to- something the sack of potatoes told us directly he would never do, btw. Literally he said he doesn’t care what polls say. Great fucking democracy!) managing to get the stupid app unbanned.

      Did these things not occur? Do you believe Genocide Joe is playing 6 dimensional chess only making us believe he is an inept, out of touch, genocidal 4000 year old lizard? Or is it more reasonable to believe that his insanely stupid, medically braindead ass thought doing a genocide and banning the most popular social media app would be something people simply ignored?

      His entire lifetime tells us he’s an arrogant asshole (no joke- probably worse than Trump), he’s bloodthirsty, he’s stupid (important to note), and he has been ignoring all sane advice from… everyone except, apparently, his failson and his wife for years now.

      That’s not a fucking psyop. That’s a failure on a scale beyond comprehension. That’s Joe “Genocide Joe” Biden’s legacy.

      • Glasgow@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 days ago

        Adelson paid $20 million in exchange for moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem last cycle. His window, a megadonor for settlement development in the West Bank donated 100m to Trump with her stated goals being Israeli annexation of the West Bank and a U.S. recognition of Israeli sovereignty in all the regions of the land. Trumps #1 donor above Musk.

        This was part of the deal that stopped the right wing factions in the Israeli govt from blocking the ceasefire. Are they the worse of two evils? Or is the fact that you’re aligned with them escaping you?

        Israeli media reports indicate that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu offered enticing proposals to Israeli Police Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir and Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, including plans to expand settlements in the West Bank and enhance security measures.

        According to Israeli reports, Netanyahu is attempting to persuade Ben-Gvir and Smotrich to back the agreement by highlighting two key points: first, that Trump’s presidency will bring significant benefits to “Israel”, and second, that “Israel” will be able to resume the war if needed, with US support.

        • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 days ago

          you seem to be fixed on the fact that isreal is going to annex the gaza strip (and eventually the west bank, golan heights, and chunks of syria as well) as if that wasn’t already a going to happen under any president; empires expand and the american empire’s newest colonial settler project in isreal is exactly that.

          • Glasgow@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            2 days ago

            The idea that Israel’s annexation of Gaza, the West Bank, and beyond is inevitable under any U.S. president ignores how deeply American policy shapes these outcomes. Empires do not expand in isolation because they rely on enablers to fuel their ambitions. Trump gave Israel everything it needed to push expansion forward by recognizing contested territories and legitimizing land grabs. Other administrations, while imperfect, at least made some effort to slow the process. American support through military aid, diplomatic shielding, and economic backing is not guaranteed and can shift with leadership and public pressure. History proves that empires can be stopped when expansion becomes too costly. Calling annexation inevitable is a lazy shrug at injustice, not a serious analysis of power and its limits.

        • Justice@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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          2 days ago

          I don’t know if this a lib with his mind melting over Trump or if the username should be glasGLOW, but either way, if your point is “Wow, but Trump is a sack of shit” then we are in agreement. While I can accept that Trump is a sack of shit who is also capable of stumbling, at times, into doing the right thing, it seems you are just hyper-fixating on the (yes, bad) things and ignoring or calling psyops not-bad things.

          It’s not November. Please for the love of whatever you find holy and good, stop trying to convince people that Biden wasn’t a full and total fuckup. Objectively a worse president than Trump… so far. When that changes, then I will also acknowledge that. Because I’m following facts.

          Btw, the suggestion that I am aligned with Trump is… wew. Hopefully I can petition for you to be my witness at a possible future trial for “traitors of America.” You can tell the tribunal how much I love Trump.

          By the way, if you think Biden wasn’t also just letting Israel do whatever the fuck they wanted, you’ve been sleeping for 15 months. Biden has been going “No, please, stop… no… please… I can’t do anything…” the whole fucking time. They’re both pieces of shit. The only difference is people demanded Biden force Israel to stop murdering and he refused. Trump made it stop for now. That’s just factual. Why he did it, what he’s going to do, well, we’ll see.

          I can guarantee one thing though. Biden sure as shit was going to concede to Israel on taking the West Bank and/or Gaza as well. And had Biden actually restrained Israel he (Kamala anyway) probably wouldn’t have lost. Had he actually cut them off in Nov 2023 and forced a ceasefire and peace over a year ago, well, it doesn’t matter because he didn’t. Everything Trump did term one, Biden continued.

          There’s no psyop happening. You also didn’t address the actual main point which is Biden’s rotting corpse listening Lex Luther over at the ADL and banning the #1 social media app in the US. What a magnificent fucking blunder that was. Also totally predictable that Trump, who can room read, would immediately jump on that freebie from Biden. But I guess Biden being a fullblown dipshit is a psyop. Fuck, I forgot!

          • Glasgow@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            2 days ago

            Not a lib, market-anarchist.

            You are putting a lot of effort into deflecting from Trump’s openly transactional politics. I never claimed Biden was not complicit or a failure. He absolutely is. However, it is nonsense to suggest that Trump’s actions were accidental steps toward doing the right thing. Or that objectively he was the worse choice for Palestine. His decisions were driven by donor influence and political deals that empower some of the most extreme factions in Israeli politics. If you are genuinely following facts, you should acknowledge that Trump did not stop the genocide out of any moral principle or giving the people what they want. He paused violence in a particular area to gain leverage for his donors and personal agenda. Trump is clearly worse because he deliberately emboldened far-right factions in Israel, openly traded policy for donor cash, and encouraged the annexation of Palestinian territories. Biden’s failures are rooted in negligence and complicity, but Trump’s actions were calculated steps that further the erasure of Palestine. Recognizing this does not absolve Biden but highlights how Trump actively made the situation worse - like everyone not victim to these psyops could see.

            Why did Adelson give Trump $100m if there was literally no difference? You lack nuance, blinded by propaganda.

  • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Now, he also apparently played a major role in ending the israeli genocide.

    He isn’t ending it. It’s a pause. Israel will probably resume at some point. Maybe a month, maybe a year.

    • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 days ago

      The resistance didn’t back down from any of the demands made in the December 2023 ceasefire deal. isisrael is the one who folded. isisrael is the one who needed the ceasefire.

      I honestly think the economic costs, emigration, attrition, and international pressure that they are already under will keep them from restarting again especially after having a while to let their blood cool.

      • Coco 📕@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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        2 days ago

        Dont worry the neocons from amerikkka will ste- I mean use our tax money to rebuild israels economy.

        • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
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          2 days ago

          No doubt the us will try to fix the economy, I just doubt their ability rebuild it to “restart the war” levels in a year. Half a million people abandoned the zionist project in the first year. That’s 5% of the population. isisrael was smart enough to hide the numbers for 2024. Many of those who left are highly trained workers who can easily get work in other countries, many of them academics and university professors. They are suffering a major case of brain drain. There is also a issues with investment, pension funds have little confidence in the future of isisrael and have been moving their investments out of the country.

          isisrael depends on immigration to prop up its economic growth but nobody is going to move to israel after October 7th. They cant say that it is the “only safe place for Jews” because the truth is it is the most dangerous place for Jewish people. isisrael has proven it cannot beat Hamas and that leaves the door open for another Al Aqsa Flood. Throwing money at the situation isn’t going to fix it.

    • soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      3 days ago

      Well, i’d like to say that jews(, and religious people,) aren’t supposed to lie, but most of the israelis are only “cultural”(?) jews anyway…
      It’s the first time that our timeline is full with palestinians celebrating the end, i hope that they won’t have been celebrating too early and that the Golan Height will be enough for Israel.
      As Caitlin Johnstone wrote, this is encouraging ?

      But yeah, i agree : we’ll see.

      And then we have westerners who don’t see the obvious differences with the Ukraine-Russia conflict :

      • Each time that Ukraine didn’t have an anti-russian president they were coup’d with the support of the west, in 2004 and 2014 ;
      • We(sterners) invested a lot to ‘drive them away from’/‘use them against’ Russia, including with the n.e.d., the u.s.a.i.d., etc. ;
      • Ukraine wrote in its constitution that they’ll join n.a.t.o., and they were indeed helped more&more by the n.a.t.o. since 2014 ;
      • Crimea and the Donbass voted to join Russia since 1991(, like Transnistria) ;
      • etc.
        Since Crimea and the Donbass are russian, it is Ukraine that aimed to invade Russia since 2014.
        Well, just pointing out that when we’ll stop looking at Israel we’ll be back to pointing our eyes at Ukraine.