• danc4498@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    I love it, but I fear for the day Lemmy becomes so popular that it is worthwhile for the corporate bots to begin gaming Lemmy’s algorithm to dominate front pages. I don’t think Lemmy is prepared to defend against this.

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      10 hours ago

      I think we might reach a point that, instead of one application in the beginning, we’d have to have periodic “re-verification” to prove that you are human (and haven’t been taken over by a bot). Like maybe once every 6 months. And on the 5th month, you can begin early submission for the re-verification application.

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      15 hours ago

      I am still new to the fediverse but I figured that smaller constellations will federate without connecting to the largest federation.

      It’s harder to manipulate 500 disjoint federations than 1 really large one. Especially when some of those federations rely on heavy verification.

      Of course those smaller federations are likely organized around specific purposes or organizing interests rather than broad public discourse.

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        10 hours ago

        Part of what makes Reddit so great is the huge community of content creators. Both the posts and comments. Lemmy has slowly been catching up, but still is far off.

        Defederating from large instances will just result in lower quality content for those instances. I would hope there’d be a better solution, but I’m not smart enough to think of one.

        Maybe the secret is to let each instance control their own sorting algorithm. They keep getting the content from the large instances, but control how it gets brought to the front page. My guess is this would be no small task, but that would definitely make it difficult to game the algorithm.

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          So with all due respect I think you’re coming at this from a different set of experiences and assumptions as to what constitutes “good content.”

          I’m a transsexual and many of us have already migrated into closed Discord servers in order to specifically avoid what you consider to be “benefits” of federating with large instances.

          The same things you think are so great about Reddit have been driving us off the platform for years in search of more niche and protected communities.

          I’m not denying that your use case here is valid. Just that it’s a very mainstream view of what good social media is. But mainstream appeal doesn’t necessarily mean better for all of us in all communities.

          The fediverse has the potential in the digital world to be like gay villages once were in meat world. Isolated and self-segregated, safer than most places though hate crimes and bath house raids still continued, and essential for organizing networks of support/protection between ourselves.

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            2 hours ago

            We definitely have different use cases. I’m looking for the exact same thing I had on Reddit, but on a platform controlled by people that won’t sell our user experience for share prices.

            Doesn’t mean I want the Nazis and homophobes here as well. But the content I enjoyed on Reddit is what I would want here. Not just fun memes and news stories, but niche communities and the great comments you’d get from Reddit.

            Sounds like you didn’t like what you had on Reddit and are looking for something different.