On a more serious note, how does updating apps on gentoo work? I understand that everything is built on your system, but then if the app is updated, do you need to re-compile every time?
Just two things:
- You can take screenshots with your computer.
- Clean your damn monitor, son! 🤣
if OP is using gentoo then there is a very real chance they aren’t able to take screenshots yet.
back in my gentoo days it took a while to get that set up. although it wasn’t exactly a top priority
Work computer. Dont want to sign in to work computer with personal accounts. Yes, can screenshot, then email to myself, open up on phone, then upload here. But thats too much work for a dumb joke.
Why are you using dating websites on work computers?
Didnt click the link. Morning tea break. Wondered how gentoo apps worked. Looked it up. Funny ad. (While other workers have pictures of thier kids to keep them motivated, i have the linux pipeline xkcd comic on my desk to keep me sane)
Just don’t use Arch for dating.
Yes. But you have to spoof your browser credentials.
I wish ddg didn’t suck, but ddg sucks.
What’s bad about it? OP has voluntarily turned ads on on ddg (to support ddg I guess). DDG has been working great for me, so care to enlighten me please?
I’ve been using it for like a week now and it’s weirdly slow. Basically every other search engine including the other privacy focused ones are significantly faster.
It gives bad results. I mean just look at OP’s post. It picked up on “dating” and “apps” and gave ads and probably results on that instead “updating” and “apps”. Even when he also included the context of “gentoo”. It’s just bad at keywords. It just gives a scatter of semi related terms.
It’s not DDG’s fault that company buys ads in with the worst possible keywords.
Otoh, using a browser without adblock is wild. ;P
Yeah I don’t think they keyworded “updating”. That’s ddg. Especially with the context of Gentoo, which ddg also couldn’t figure out.
that might be more the advertiser needs to update their negs list
I don’t think there’s that many Gentoo Linux related ads lol
It works fine for me, I haven’t had to google something for better results in about a month. I used to have to do that though, have you tried it recently? I think it’s gotten better compared to a few years agoPeople have to buy these ads. Ad buyers don’t want to show ads to people that aren’t interested, it’s low success all around. They want to show ads to people that are actually interested, and this isn’t it. This is supposed to be the bread and butter for DDG, and the underlying search abilities can’t even do that right. It’s just a scatter of semi related terms. This isn’t a case of showing something just because, this is a case of bad ad/search results.
I use DDG all the time, every day, and it gives exactly what I said, a scatter result of semi related terms. I end up using google well over half the time.
DDG is good, that guy can go duck himself. I love !bangs.
I was getting some meh results with DuckDuckGO so I switched to Qwant and started trying it instead.
It’s not gentoo late, bro!
I started. Got a headache. Maybe its just user error and i didnt read the full handbook before starting, or just a very wordy handbook, but each step lists the systemd steps AND the openrc steps. Instead of one book for just openrc and another for systemd.
Will read again tomorrow, and spin up another vm next weekend for attempt number 2
Look, a Gentooman is up for dating.
This would be the top post on Reddit.
Yeah, it basically syncs the repository from the patch and then compiles.
What’s your sock situation?
Footwear in general
Google now thinks:
A) You’re a pengin
B) You’re trying to marry up from your social class
Your ads are going to be wonderful.
OP is a duck.
Yes, you recompile each time you update.
In general, to upgrade an app you do:
root # emaint --auto sync
root # emerge --update $PACKAGE_NAME(That first command used to just be something like
root # emerge --syncwhen I last used Gentoo, two decades ago. I wonder why they changed it?)Wouldnt that take a long time every update? Or are all the horror stories of long compile times just a thing of the past with better hardware now?
A few “whales” are out there, such as browser (engines), rust, certain monolithic office packages and distribution kernel. Those all have -bin alternatives as already mentioned in this thread. The rest will usually be a matter of about half an hour max in my experience.
Well, yeah, but that’s what you sign up for when you choose to use Gentoo. Custom-compiling every app, every time, with your chosen USE flags, is the advantage of it. (I suppose Gentoo has “binary packages” available now, but at that point I don’t see why you wouldn’t just pick Arch instead to begin with.)
Also, that’s another reason you should update frequently (e.g. daily or weekly): to keep compilation times reasonable by only ever updating a few packages at once.
Also also, as I said, I last used Gentoo two decades ago. Even back then, I found the compilation times… uh, at least “tractable.” 😅 I can only assume that with modern hardware they’re not bad at all, as for the most part, processing power has scaled faster than FOSS code complexity.
Thank you for your explanations. Still want to give Gentoo a try some time. Maybe when im done with steam/gaming
You can give it a try now if you’re interested, you should get decent enough gaming performance, though you obviously aren’t going to double your fps or anything.
For browsers, you can use binary packages because compiling either firefox or chrome every time there’s an update would be an absolute pain.
Then if you use a desktop environment, that’s usually the biggest thing when there’s an update.
And to be clear - you recompile the packages that are updated, or for which you’ve changed USE flags (if you add that as a flag in your
emergecommand). You don’t recompile the entire system every time. Unless you specify that.I ran it for gaming for 2 years, only stopped because I switched from KDE Plasma to Gnome and broke something, tried to switch back and broke something further. It MIGHT also be that I tried to switch from X to Wayland at the same time instead of doing one thing at a time.
I would figure it would be just the opposite: that you’d want to try Gentoo specifically for gaming, in order to wring every last FPS out of the system. At least, that was part of my motivation back in the day (despite Proton not being a thing yet, IIRC I could at least play some games on Linux back then).
I think of Gentoo like the Fast and the Furious-esque customized sports coupe you drive when you’re young to try to impress your friends. In contrast, I’m at the point where I can’t be bothered anymore, so I drive the boring minivan of distros, Kubuntu. Point is: try Gentoo sooner rather than later, while you still give a shit. (Edit: of course, with a username like @MidsizedSedan, it might already be too late, LOL)
Maybe peoples that used gentoo are old enough to be called legends
¯_ (ツ) _/¯No, grow up first!!!11
No, use Hannah Montana Linux like a normal person
TempleOS is all anyone needs
It’s just that if you start at 20 with an emerge update, it might be done by the time you’re 40 and you might want to consider start dating for once.
Average qtwebengine updater
