EU stops advertising on X over hate speech. Fines could follow next year::The European Union is pulling its advertisements from Elon Musk’s X for now, citing an “alarming increase” in hate speech and disinformation on the platform formerly known as Twitter.

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    I feel like the EU is one of the few forces of good in the world these days.

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      It is not. But it has been doing some right things when it comes to privacy protection and so on.

      Still, Trump’s border wall and caged children are merely cute compared to the shit going on at the borders of the EU.

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        I disagree. The EU is one of the best things that ever happened to us Europeans, who knows, we might be fighting another war if history went different.

        Politically, the EU spins around between based decisions and crap like chat surveillance, but over all, it has been a major contributor to the high standard of life in Europe, I’m convinced of this.

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        Still, Trump’s border wall and caged children are merely cute compared to the shit going on at the borders of the EU.

        What kind of things should I think of?

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      Not for long we all get very right to fascist governments the next year’s and things will go south. Germany with a CDU/AFD coalition, Le pen in France, if those two happen I see a dark future ahead, but hey climate change will bite us in the ass anyway. Why not go under under fascist leadership…

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      Until you find out it lets Muslim immigrants (80% of whom prefer sharia law over eu law) take over entire towns & countries.

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          It got me banned from reddit, but I ain’t even half right nor even a bit extremist. I just walked around in Rotterdam, Almere, Marseille, Barcelona and such. Have you?

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            I have. I have even lived in and right next to the widely decried “no-go zones” of Sweden, and can testify that the whole thing is a pile of racist bullshit.

          • SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world
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            Are these really the towns that are taken over by “sharia law”? Can you give examples of what you saw?

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              Don’t do that. I did NOT say those words. You ARE CHANGING WHAT I SAID. fu

              • SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world
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                Words have implications, and you are implying these immigrants want sharia law to be impemented. Do you have examples of this? Why did you mention these cities? What’s special about them?

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                  They are unsafe for regular people. They are not Europe anymore after 7pm.

                  Yes, the implications are that people will democratically vote to stop democracy. That is not good for a country/unión.

                  They won’t be the mayority, but they can surely negativily change a society without being a majority.

                  WILL ALL THE NON EUROPEANS FK OFF PLZ? OR VISIT MARSEILLE AFTER 7PM FIRST. THNX

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                    Your only example of this is Marseille and yeah the marseille situation is obviously due to the supposed country of origin of its inhabitants and not at all by the socioeconomical context that made impossible for young ppl to live there without commiting crimes. Because that’s what’s actually happening.

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        Can you mention some of all of these alleged “Sharia controlled” towns and, eh, countries?

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          That is not at all what I said. I said the mayority of Muslims in Europe prefer sharia law. You are CHANGING my words. That sick fundy behavior.

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            Your unchanged words:

            Until you find out it [the EU] lets Muslim immigrants (80% of whom prefer sharia law over eu law) take over entire towns & countries.

            Provide examples then. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and the burden of providing such evidence is on the claimant and no one else.

            And surely if you have a numeric figure like 80% for the proportion of Muslim immigrants in the EU who supposedly prefer sharia law, you can cite the source in which the statistic came from, and the source will list their data collection and analysis methodology which will also surely be logically and mathematically sound, right? Riiiiight?

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            Can we get an example of a town that’s been “taken over” in this manner? Your words.

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              I mentioned a whole bunch, try going to non tourist areas of Marseille, Rotterdam, paris, Etc after 7pm.

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                Yeah I read all your weird, totalitarian ranting, but you didn’t prove anything to anybody.

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                  Totalitarian… Like those tankie governments where the leaders have impunity and party in Miami and have their money in Geneva while the locals can’t buy meat? Fu

                • JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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                  Wow I loose internet points, now what?

                  Dude seriously you guys obviously are ignorant Americans. Don’t try and talk Europe to a European. My opinion won’t change because you guys have Mexicans and blacks and we have Muslims…

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                    We also have Muslim immigrants fyi. In fact, he wasn’t Muslim I think, but an immigrant from Syria got kinda famous for leading a tech company in the US. You might’ve heard of him, Steve Jobs?

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                If you’ve ever been to Marseille, Paris or Rotterdam, you’d know that is categorically incorrect.

                I personally live in an area with a higher Muslim population, but nobody here wants Sharia Law. Nor to take over any towns.

                You should be less gullible about places you’ve never been to, and things you know little about.

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                  Maybe read the inquiry, it’s not sucked out of my thumb. Ask wilders for the source.

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                    If wilders is your source then it’s no wonder you’re so ill informed.

                    What do you think happens in these cities after 7pm?

                    All the Muslims come out and start plotting to take over?

                    The Muslim Sharia police start their rounds?

                    Or you get harassed by gangs of terrorists?

                    Stop being stupid.

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          Which port town? Rotterdam, Marseille, Barcelona, etc

          Because countries arnt yet at that level.

          30-40% of babies born are non European decent.

          I’m not even saying that’s a bad thing. But ANYONE THAT PREFERS SHARIA LAW OVER EUROPEAN (OR RESPECTIVE COUNTRY’S) LAW, should NOT be in Europe.

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              I don’t want to get in the middle of a flame war, but as someone who’s seen the culture of his small town shift over the last couple decades, I can’t help but have some sympathy for those who worry about this happening in their local (Admittedly, in my case, it’s watching a town where the suburban drops off to rural slowly be subsumed by city sprawl, so this might be a false equivalance).

              But I think the real issue is that that’s not an evenly distributed 11%. People will naturally bunch up in groups along cultural lines. I could see a city developing a single Arab/Muslim neighborhood over the course of a decade being of no note, but it sounds like some are developing multiple over just a couple years.

              I have no real data to back that notion up, but from what I hear from Europeans, that’s the general feel. I think that’s the real issue: things are changing and they feel like they’re changing fast, and that’s freaking people out. Telling people who feel that way they’re crazy only “others” them and I feel that’s really how the situation gets worse.

              But also, the towns the guy above mentioned feel like bigger cities (I’m American and haven’t been to Europe, so I also might lack perspective), and so I do feel like they’re overstating the point.

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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                I have no real data to back that notion up, but from what I hear from Europeans, that’s the general feel.

                Yeah, and Americans in general once felt that the Irish or the Italians would take over the country because they were emigrating in large numbers. Guess what never happened?

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                  I suppose, the point I mean to make is that belittling this guy does nothing to solve the problem.

                  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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                    How did I belittle them? By saying they were needlessly fearmongering? Because they are needlessly fearmongering. Muslims haven’t taken over port towns and they won’t implement sharia law in Europe.

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                  There is a big difference though. Their beliefs were compatible with Americans, everyone believed in Jesus, not killing people and such. And most importantly, the next generation mingled and married locals and they were almost fully assimilated by the third generation.

                  Where I live, and other places, most of the Muslim population (not all, mind you) keep their children from others as much as possible. The children are taught what they can and can’t do because they are Muslim. And they can only marry Muslims (conversions are allowed but the family must live Muslim lives under those rules. They are not allowing natural assimilation. Places like Denmark have laws forcing immigrant children to attend day care with locals, because otherwise they won’t.

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                    Okay, but they’re still a tiny minority. They will not be implementing sharia law in Europe any time in the foreseeable future because they just won’t have that power.

                    Also, if you’re going to say belief in Jesus is a requirement for being European, you’re going to have to do something about the Jews who live there too. And considering they’ve lived there for thousands of years, maybe that isn’t a defining characteristic of Europeans.

            • JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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              Sorry, this is true if you include countries like Poland and Hungary.

              IT ISN’T TRUE IF YOU LOOK AT PORT CITIES. and small towns can be overrun within a week

              Ps MY BEST FRIENDS ARE (PROGRESSIVE) MUSLIMS. nothing against them! But adding even more immigrants that aren’t educated nor socially connected to ANY European thing isn’t good… They aren’t like the Mexicans…

                • JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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                  Wow really? I didn’t say that BTW. Go walk around town after 7pm and then you MAY get my actual point…

                  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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                    Me:

                    Which country has Muslim immigrants taken over? Name it please.

                    You:

                    Which port town? Rotterdam, Marseille, Barcelona, etc

                    Because countries arnt yet at that level.

                    So yes you did say that Muslims have taken over Marseille. You are factually incorrect. “I see a lot of Muslims there” is not evidence of your claim.

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            Thinking that any political opinions are fundamentally “Non-European” is a fundamentally totalitarian and racist mindset. I reject your attempts at gatekeeping my politics based on your arbitrary and chauvinistic ideas of “European” values. But hey, there is nothing more inherently European than racism, so I guess you’re living up to your own ideals there.

            • JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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              I specifically mentioned EUROPEAN LAW vs SHARIA LAW and the fact that 80% of European Muslims prefer the latter.

              THAT’S A FACTUAL STATEMENT FROM A LARGE PUBLIC INQ.

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                    No, you don’t get to make claims and then tell other people to resarch it. Either you back up your claims with reputable sources, or you shut up. The burden of proof is on you and you alone, so get to it.

            • JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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              We’re not idiotic Americans. Of the native population, only a small percentage wants church rule

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        Twitter is filled with idiots who’ll pronounce London/Paris/wherever is under Sharia law. Never seems to occur to them that this is very easy to fact check.

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          I definitely did not say that they were under sharia law. I made several factual statements. But ALL of you manage to Twist my words. Sick rethoric!

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            Nah you tried to imply something not born out by reality and got downvoted for it.

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              Read my original words. It says 80% of Muslims in Europe would prefer sharia vs euro law.

              That’s the result of a large scale double blind inquiry. It’s not implying anything it’s just reality.

              Ps i actually like Muslims. More as insane xtians… At least they don’t twist and change their books words every few years…

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          Correcto, I’m definitely not blaming anyone.

          But I do know walking around my home town on a Friday evening is not possible anymore.

          Whatever anyone says doesn’t change that.