Consumers across Europe furious over President Donald Trump’s policies are boycotting U.S. goods. Among the most passionate are Danes, seeking a way to protest Trump's threat to seize the Danish territory of Greenland.
Our neighbors would drive by and hurl excrement at us. It works in my town, but half the population is a liberal university. Just one town of many, though.
Best we could possibly do is maybe blow the rails, the US is too big and if only one city were to do a general strike it’d mean nothing. Also I’m pretty sure said city would get glassed especially right now.
We’ve had protests like this in the past which failed miserably. Look up “occupy wall street”. Americans don’t like protesting that ends up disrupting the economic machine. We protest by disrupting the political process. It actually can work in our favor this time since trump and his cronies are the ones disrupting the economic machine. We just need other countries to keep up the pressure economically while we put political pressure on the current administration.
The George Floyd protests ABSOLUTELY did something, don’t believe that bullshit. Primarily what they achieved was to publicly demonstrate to anyone that was still paying attention (most especially internationally) and unsure of whether the police state in the US was dangerous or not, that yes in fact the police state had such a strangle hold over power that effectively nowhere in the U.S. actually changed policy despite MASSIVE popular support.
The George Floyd protests changed how people in the US think about their country, their communities, it obliterated the old Overton window and got people to stand up and not tolerate being treated like shit.
Don’t let cynics spit on that protest, all you have to do is look at the ferocity and more importantly complete saturation of police state/neoliberal blowback from the George Floyd protests in terms of what actions and policies were actually enacted by government at all levels to see the idea that conservatives in the U.S. would ever allow for any material change is an illusion. There are a few exceptions, but the fact that they are exceptions speaks volumes to how fucking cooked the U.S is.
If you want to know why leftists in the U.S. hate centrists/neoliberals with such passion, it is because they played a crucial role in maintaining that illusion by being incompetent losers who never really wanted to win if it meant addressing the actual issues at hand, they set the table for fascism and then gleefully swung the doors wide. If you want to know why leftists in the U.S. make fun of centrists/neoliberals with such unrelenting glee it is because one of the only silver linings here is how funny this is, neoliberals are like the second tier fool in a comedy who is even more pathetic than the fool because they take so much pride in not quiteee being the biggest fool.
No, the George Floyd protests achieved a strategic success that doesn’t have to do with material gains or losses or having any degree of leverage on the status quo power structure at all (which in the U.S., the left doesn’t), it changed the hearts and minds of people all over the U.S. to a truly massive degree, that is backed up by polling and changing attitudes towards issues, as well as a rise in awareness of issues where previously a lot of people unconnected to police violence were comfortable ignoring it and letting it happen.
The George Floyd protests changed so much, and were so large that any honest account of U.S. history will surely locate them as a watershed moment in U.S. culture, that both spoke to the desperation of the moment but also of the future to come.
Nah we are gonna shut this shit down. I am not trying to defend the US, or say that we win will win. This is likely a shift into a new era of a gilded age in the U.S. with a very stark enforced difference between the ruling class and the poor, but believe me, this isn’t happening quietly and you haven’t seen ANYTHING yet in terms of the general U.S. populace being fed up with this.
There have been protests, will be protests, and they will continue to get bigger.
Geographically, you’re not asking a country to do a general strike.
You’re asking 50 different countries, each with its own culture, filled with a majority population so poor it cannot miss a day of work without risking raising its debt profile.
I’d love it if we could, but I just don’t think it’s possible.
There have been disruptive strikes in our history, particularly the rail strikes in the 1800’s, but I don’t think there will be any meaningful civil disobedience unless one thing happens: Major, prolonged covid-style disruption to people’s personal convenience.
I remember in March 2020 when everyone was gung ho about staying indoors, social distancing, and stopping COVID. Then, three weeks later, you had Americans threatening to kill politicians because they couldn’t get their hair cut or go to a restaurant. Then you had people threatening to kill politicians because they had to wear a cloth across their face to go places. It’s insane, but lack of convenience will be the major precipitating factor if a strike were to happen.
Keep it up. The shit bags in my country only respect one thing the dollar bill.
Will do.
But could you all please like do a general strike, or lock down cities by protesting this shit?
It does not work like that in America. We are not united but divided.
I’m not asking for all of you. Just the ones that doesn’t want this to happen.
Our neighbors would drive by and hurl excrement at us. It works in my town, but half the population is a liberal university. Just one town of many, though.
And in my rural shit hole town…I would be the only one lol
Yeah, it would be ugly in the town I grew up in.
Best we could possibly do is maybe blow the rails, the US is too big and if only one city were to do a general strike it’d mean nothing. Also I’m pretty sure said city would get glassed especially right now.
Right. End up in El Salvador
We’ve had protests like this in the past which failed miserably. Look up “occupy wall street”. Americans don’t like protesting that ends up disrupting the economic machine. We protest by disrupting the political process. It actually can work in our favor this time since trump and his cronies are the ones disrupting the economic machine. We just need other countries to keep up the pressure economically while we put political pressure on the current administration.
I wouldn’t not protest to save the economy now, since that is out the window.
I don’t know if occupy accomplished anything, but the George Floyd protests were massive.
Americans can protest. I just don’t get the late stage capitalism stockholm syndrome.
The George Floyd protests ABSOLUTELY did something, don’t believe that bullshit. Primarily what they achieved was to publicly demonstrate to anyone that was still paying attention (most especially internationally) and unsure of whether the police state in the US was dangerous or not, that yes in fact the police state had such a strangle hold over power that effectively nowhere in the U.S. actually changed policy despite MASSIVE popular support.
The George Floyd protests changed how people in the US think about their country, their communities, it obliterated the old Overton window and got people to stand up and not tolerate being treated like shit.
Don’t let cynics spit on that protest, all you have to do is look at the ferocity and more importantly complete saturation of police state/neoliberal blowback from the George Floyd protests in terms of what actions and policies were actually enacted by government at all levels to see the idea that conservatives in the U.S. would ever allow for any material change is an illusion. There are a few exceptions, but the fact that they are exceptions speaks volumes to how fucking cooked the U.S is.
If you want to know why leftists in the U.S. hate centrists/neoliberals with such passion, it is because they played a crucial role in maintaining that illusion by being incompetent losers who never really wanted to win if it meant addressing the actual issues at hand, they set the table for fascism and then gleefully swung the doors wide. If you want to know why leftists in the U.S. make fun of centrists/neoliberals with such unrelenting glee it is because one of the only silver linings here is how funny this is, neoliberals are like the second tier fool in a comedy who is even more pathetic than the fool because they take so much pride in not quiteee being the biggest fool.
No, the George Floyd protests achieved a strategic success that doesn’t have to do with material gains or losses or having any degree of leverage on the status quo power structure at all (which in the U.S., the left doesn’t), it changed the hearts and minds of people all over the U.S. to a truly massive degree, that is backed up by polling and changing attitudes towards issues, as well as a rise in awareness of issues where previously a lot of people unconnected to police violence were comfortable ignoring it and letting it happen.
The George Floyd protests changed so much, and were so large that any honest account of U.S. history will surely locate them as a watershed moment in U.S. culture, that both spoke to the desperation of the moment but also of the future to come.
Low cost of goods is what keeps the peasants in line. It’s kind of our identity at this point.
There are general strikes happening all over the US this Saturday!
Edit for grammer :)
In that case, you’ve re-earned my respect (some of you).
Nah we are gonna shut this shit down. I am not trying to defend the US, or say that we win will win. This is likely a shift into a new era of a gilded age in the U.S. with a very stark enforced difference between the ruling class and the poor, but believe me, this isn’t happening quietly and you haven’t seen ANYTHING yet in terms of the general U.S. populace being fed up with this.
There have been protests, will be protests, and they will continue to get bigger.
Geographically, you’re not asking a country to do a general strike.
You’re asking 50 different countries, each with its own culture, filled with a majority population so poor it cannot miss a day of work without risking raising its debt profile.
I’d love it if we could, but I just don’t think it’s possible.
I get you’re economically shackled already, but I just don’t believe the ‘too big/diverse to strike’-argument.
It just needs to start somewhere. And it probably evetually will now your president really fucked us all over.
I could always be wrong.
There have been disruptive strikes in our history, particularly the rail strikes in the 1800’s, but I don’t think there will be any meaningful civil disobedience unless one thing happens: Major, prolonged covid-style disruption to people’s personal convenience.
I remember in March 2020 when everyone was gung ho about staying indoors, social distancing, and stopping COVID. Then, three weeks later, you had Americans threatening to kill politicians because they couldn’t get their hair cut or go to a restaurant. Then you had people threatening to kill politicians because they had to wear a cloth across their face to go places. It’s insane, but lack of convenience will be the major precipitating factor if a strike were to happen.
So better not buy US made items not vital for survival. Leave some US made product on the shelves and lower your debt.