• dhork@lemmy.world
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    It could be the headline writer to blame, but I’d like to recommend that these people stop making “demands” of the only party in our two-party system that recognizes them as human, and start working with them to make incremental improvements. It won’t get fixed overnight, let’s not pretend it can be fixed by making “demands”.

    I understand it’s not their fault that our two-party system is as fucked up as it is. But, for all practical purposes, there are only two sides to choose from here, and one side wants to pave over Gaza and build resorts there. Gazans will be shipped out by the bus load, and the only ones allowed to stay will cater to wealthy Americans and Israelis. People who advocate for Palestinians, but refuse to work with Democrats, will be just as culpable in that outcome as the current US Administration who is deporting anyone they can who says publically that Palestinians are humans who have the same inherent rights as any other human.

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      Democrats keeping his name in the media 24/7, refusing to listen to the demands of its voters, refusing to primary Biden until the donor class stopped the flow of money, and the constant gaslighting of our day to day lives did more to elect trump than anything.

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        Democrats didn’t point a gun to your head and tell you to stay home. The Democrat nominee wasn’t God-tier-perfect, so you pulled a temper tantrum. If you opted to sit the election out, that was a decision you made. You made the active choice to help return the man you’re supposed to be dead set against back to office. Don’t go around blaming “Democrats” or anybody else for the choices you made.

        These were your choices. Own them.

        Maybe next time you’ll learn that you don’t stop yourself from shooting yourself in the foot by aiming the gun at your own head instead.

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          Imagine being so brainwashed that refusing to condone genocide and acknowledging liberals as being the left wing of fascism is viewed as god tier perfect. The mental gymnastics coming out of BlueMAGA is giving MAGA a run for their money

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            So the solution to a politician who is “condoning genocide” is to instead elect a person who was actively campaigning on genociding harder, seizing the land, and turning Gaza into beachfront property for the rich?

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              The solution is not to platform fascists. Nobody wins in a fash vs fash election.

              This is kinda basic to any reasonable person but something that the dems choose not to understand (because they support fascism).

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      centrist, by definition, will give genocide equal weight in consideration to things like suffrage and inclusion.

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    If you honestly think these people are the reason the Democrats lost, then you should adopt their policies instead of courting voters on the right. Even though I agree with a proper ceasefire, I don’t think they’re the reason the Democrats lost.

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      Sure, blame a tiny oppressed minority for the fascism in the USA. Super brave.

      It’s certainly not the fault of the “party” who platformed a fascist and is now actively collaborating and co-working with another fascist. smh.

      This is why the dems lose.

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      Democrats elected Trump and his group by refusing to listen to the demands of voters.