That would be a huge waste of ressources. We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources and should not start wasting ressources on mining “steam bux”.
Sure, but we’re not going to suddenly move to some Star Trek commie utopia. For now, developers need to get paid. Either I goto work and make money (burning carbon) to pay for it, or advertising (toxic) pays for it, or crypto mining (also toxic). How does this developer, living under capitalism, buy food, housing and medical without something to make money? Goodwill donation links are unlikely to cut it.
I totally disagree here. First of all, the initial proposal was for the steam client to mine crypto. The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. And no grid is using 100% renewables, so its currently better to feed your solar power into the grid than to waste it on crypto
The client has no idea where its electricity comes from.
If the client cared to find out, they could just find out. Regardless of mining they’re creating emissions if its not green, so its not even that big of a problem. You could use this same argument to say that using microwaves is bad because the electricity they use isn’t entirely green.
I don’t really care about this outside of brainstorming but do you think the economic activity you engage in to earn a wage and purchase a game is entirely without consequence?
When you shed microplastics and emit carbon on your way to work does that just not factor into your equation?
When you do meaningless trivial work for a corporation that pollutes for profit is that not also wasteful?
Even if you as a person have some magical green job, most of us don’t have that luxury. Most of our jobs are just as dirty and polluting as crypto mining.
Passing the “carbon credit” on to my employment is kinda outside of my hands, since that is dictated by my employer, which few are lucky enough to have a meaningful decision in. People also don’t work an extra amount that somehow corresponds to “waste money” but budget out the amount they earn.
As an idea, using crypto to offset the API costs to crypto and thus to electricity usage is wild because I’m still paying the same dollar amount, just in electricity that I have then wasted, and not directly on the game without all the middle man BS. So instead of paying for API + profit, I’m paying for electricity, which is then wasted generating crypto to pay for a game I could just pay for directly without the excess energy waste.
More that it isn’t relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you’re still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost.
And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I’ve got bills to pay and mouths to feed.
Congratulations. It happens. I didn’t think it was too bad an idea. What if steam ran the miner to produce steam bux?
That would be a huge waste of ressources. We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources and should not start wasting ressources on mining “steam bux”.
Sure, but we’re not going to suddenly move to some Star Trek commie utopia. For now, developers need to get paid. Either I goto work and make money (burning carbon) to pay for it, or advertising (toxic) pays for it, or crypto mining (also toxic). How does this developer, living under capitalism, buy food, housing and medical without something to make money? Goodwill donation links are unlikely to cut it.
crypto mining doesn’t need to create carbon. if a miner creates emissions, that’s on them for not using solar
Opportunity costs still exist
I totally disagree here. First of all, the initial proposal was for the steam client to mine crypto. The client has no idea where its electricity comes from. And no grid is using 100% renewables, so its currently better to feed your solar power into the grid than to waste it on crypto
If the client cared to find out, they could just find out. Regardless of mining they’re creating emissions if its not green, so its not even that big of a problem. You could use this same argument to say that using microwaves is bad because the electricity they use isn’t entirely green.
I would pay good dollar money to be this stupid.
Do you think solar panels come from thin air? How is that going to do anything but offset renewable adoption?
I don’t really care about this outside of brainstorming but do you think the economic activity you engage in to earn a wage and purchase a game is entirely without consequence?
When you shed microplastics and emit carbon on your way to work does that just not factor into your equation?
When you do meaningless trivial work for a corporation that pollutes for profit is that not also wasteful?
Even if you as a person have some magical green job, most of us don’t have that luxury. Most of our jobs are just as dirty and polluting as crypto mining.
Passing the “carbon credit” on to my employment is kinda outside of my hands, since that is dictated by my employer, which few are lucky enough to have a meaningful decision in. People also don’t work an extra amount that somehow corresponds to “waste money” but budget out the amount they earn.
As an idea, using crypto to offset the API costs to crypto and thus to electricity usage is wild because I’m still paying the same dollar amount, just in electricity that I have then wasted, and not directly on the game without all the middle man BS. So instead of paying for API + profit, I’m paying for electricity, which is then wasted generating crypto to pay for a game I could just pay for directly without the excess energy waste.
So you just categorize the pollution generated by your employment as an externality and ignore it.
More that it isn’t relevant to this discussion because in the hypothetical you’re still spending the same amount, just on electricity instead of the game cost.
And yes, because labor rights are a joke in this country. I’ve got bills to pay and mouths to feed.
I’ve reread this several times and I still have no idea what you’re trying to say.
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Now you’re just being rude.
Given the comment I’m responding to, I felt it was appropriate.