• yesman@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Just another reason to wait long after release to buy a game. Denuvo charges games companies to administer the DRM infrastructure and most developers will strip it out of their games after it’s been out for a while.

    Buying games on launch is one of the most anti-customer experiences you can get. And that’s saying something in our wonderful capitalist economy

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      Buying a game post-launch:

      • Better prices; often on sale.
      • Fixed and patched up.
      • Extra content often included.
      • DRM often removed.

      No brainer, imo.

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        You forgot a bonus point:

        • Hardware requirements are now easier/cheaper to meet/exceed.
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        Preordering games: I need this digital product before jt goes up in price or runs out of copies!

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        Remember when games used to, at least sometimes… do actual internal beta testing to iron out performance bugs and such?

        Now we are all alpha and beta testers, all the time.

        Sometimes even AAA and ‘AAAA’ games release, and then unrelease before the alpha or beta is even done!

        Yeah, patient gaming for me, haven’t preordered or gone into an early access game in almost a decade now…

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      Patient gamers represent! The older I get, the less I care about FOMO. The less I care about FOMO, the happier I am. It’s a beautiful cycle.

      /me goes back to playing snes games on an emulator

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      Pirating single player games is unfortunately the way to go, considering you BUY a single player game and STILL get fucked on it.

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        Disagree, like yesman (lol) said it’s best to wait. I’m not that worried about playing games day one but I still want to sort the Devs, after they’ve patched out the bugs and removed DRM preferably

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          If only buying games actually supported devs anymore. Devs seem to get fired for any reason nowadays.

          Bad game? Fired. Good game? Also fired. Popular game that people loved? Believe it or not, also fired. Develop a game only for the company to change direction and the game gets cancelled? Absolutely fired.

          You’d think these publishers would value talent as much as their intellectual property but they seem to not care anymore for either.

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            Plenty of singleplayer games are from indies, those more or less support the developer.

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              I’m sure most pirates don’t sit here and want a crack for a 10-20€ Indie Game. But a 80€ Game (sometimes even with additional microtransaktions like skins etc.) Yeah I see that.

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                Just saying, indie devs just dont have the money and time to use denuvo

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              And you don’t need to wait for indie games, though you might need to be patient about early access quality. But, as long as the dev(s) stick with it, even that can be satisfying to see the game improve from a janky boilerplate mess to wherever it is really headed.

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            I get where you’re coming from and I agree the job security for Devs and the financing of games is fucked. It’s still disingenuous to claim that pirating the game has the same impact as buying.

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          I’m not either, I get them on sale later, just pointing out why would they screw over a paying customer with DRM bullshit.

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        Pirating is getting so hard for me that it’s becoming not an option. Comcast has started blocking vpn nodes for me, but only of I am torrenting. And if I turn off the vpn, DMCA notices out the ass. I’m kinda stuck.

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          What VPN and where are you located?

          Couple things you can do, try changing your router DNS to quad9 or open DNS, make sure you’re not using Comcast default DNS servers.

          Try a new VPN provider, I’ve been using Torguard for almost a decade, zero issues, there are discount codes where you can get it for $29/year.

          I have a dedicated desktop for seeding, I upload about 1TB per day on soulseek/nicotine+ and torrents.

          https://youtu.be/xAo61IaXun8

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            Thank you, you’re a god among men. I use a pihole for DNS, but I will give Torguard a try because I’ve been thinking of getting rid of private internet access since they went all corporate.

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              Pihole is fine, just make sure it’s not using the Comcast DNS settings. I have a pihole instance also that I use to block ads.

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      They also typically go on really good sales right around the time denuvo gets removed.