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  • Anduin1357@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Nope, the Israelis and Palestinians have claims to the region and the Israelis did historically live there during Ottoman times. The Palestinians don’t have a better claim than the Israelis.

    Also, Israel built infrastructure to make the dessert livable. That’s not free.

    Palestine lost the war, they should stop being belligerent so that Israel can trust them to not be terrorists. That’s the whole reason why there’s an apartheid. They’ve made their bed for themselves.

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      1 year ago

      who lived somewhere hundreds of years ago matters little compared to who lives in a place for the last few generations, as it is those people who get displaced in these kind of things, not the people who lived during the time of the Ottomans

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        1 year ago

        Mhm, so the historical claims of so many countries about this shallow should be at risk too huh.

        Also, did we forget that the British promised both Palestine and Israel these lands? Palestine tried to wipe out the Israelis and they and their allies have been on a losing streak ever since. That includes the loss of land in a conflict. You know, consequences.

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          Frankly, the history of the area is not an excuse in my book. Some child born to Palestinian parents can have had no part in any of that, why should they have to face consequences for the circumstances of their birth?

          And yes, I don’t buy the whole “our country owned this land a hundred years ago so we should be able to take it and evict the people who grew up and live there now” kind of arguments where they apply to other countries too, but those are not the current subject of argument, Israel and Palestine are.

          I don’t want anyone to get the wrong idea here, I’m not saying this to defend Hamas or anything, but punishing a civilian population for the actions of a terrorist organization that lives in the area is both morally wrong and foolish, it will drive more of those ordinary people to join the terrorists, out of desperation or desire for revenge.