Seriously, couldn’t they just extend the tube a bit so it overhangs the exhaust pipe???
The entire comment section seems to be missing this is assholedesign and offering the same shitty solutions without addressing the asshole design…
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No, this is not asshole design. If the oil port was sticking further out, it’s gets knocked off if you lay the bike down. And then you have no oil at all, and a blown up motor.
It’s by good design the oil port is recessed. Yes it’s annoying to use a funnel, but it’s the preferable option.
?? Oil port would only need to be extended by like 0.5" to clear that exhaust pipe, the casing to the left extends probably 1-2" from that. If you lay the bike down it that casing would stop the oil port from being touched. Shouldn’t be an issue.
Does Lemmy have a “just rolled into the shop”? I would join instantly.
Make the exhaust curve back a bit? More expensive to make the part than having a straight pipe with just one bend.
Dent the exhaust? Affect flow, create hot spot right under the oil drain plug.
Expect people to be intelligent enough to put some cardboard or foil under the plug so they don’t spill oil on the exhaust? Idiots are complaining and posting their failure on the internet and blaming you.
Extend the length of the drain plug by 1cm? Something something, profit.
How is someone expected to already know the oil drainage out of all things is asshole design?
Dude, the plug is right above the exhaust, you need to be an idiot not to realize what’s going to happen
You need to notice it first how are you going to know what to look for?
Notice what? That the plug you’re currently unscrewing is right above the exhaust?
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Well the problem with that is when you lay the bike down, the oil port gets shaved off and you lose all your oil. Don’t ask me how I know.
So yeah, it’s a PITA to use a funnel, but it’s still the preferable option.
I bet the maintenance guide says to use a funnel or something ¯\(ツ)/¯
Nope.
What’s the big deal just spray some degreaser on it then take it for a big rip
That would cost $0.76 more in materials per vehicle, unacceptable!
The engineering team that designed the engine never communicated with the engineering team that designed the motorcycle.
Keeps the exhaust pipe from rusting. /s
keeps the exhaust lubricated so it doesn’t seize up.
I knew it was good for something My indicators siezed up just last week, shoulda replaced the fluid.
A lot of bad can be said about Harleys but I love that my 48 just has a little rubber hose with a plug in it to drain the oil.
I assumed that it just fell out the engine naturally.
Super duke is like this too I just put aluminum foil over the exhaust.
What does that do?
Keeps ‘THEM’ from reading the exhaust pipe’s mind.
Keeps oil from getting on the exhaust.
Shouldn’t the process be like:
- Build five
- Drive them around as your own bikes for a while
- Keep replacing the ones you’re using with the latest iteration
I mean, a lawyer’s gonna disallow that I’m pretty sure but that’s how we’d be designing new bikes at DaVinci Crater if I were over there. I’ll stay on the low sec roads, I know it needs major design certification before anyone can take it on the nice roads
Should be, but prototyping and making one offs is expensive, maybe even 100x the cost of mass production per unit, so they will of course be looking to do the minimal amount possible
All this mess could have been prevented with a little bit of cardboard between the drain and the exhaust, you realise that I hope.
Smoldering cardboard doesn’t sound like a good idea.
You don’t normally change oil with the engine running
I’m talking about the sparklers I’m using for illumination
Good luck lighting cardboard on fire with an exhaust
All fire needs is heat, oxygen, and fuel. You’ve got all of that there.
The exhaust gets hot enough to burn off oil when it’s idling, so I’m sure it’s hot enough to burn cardboard.
I’m not going to risk it, the tinfoil idea sounds like the goer here.
Problems such as these are usually a management failure. The design of individual components are often owned by a particular person or small group. They take responsibility for the design and testing. If one person owns the sump and another person owns the exhaust pipe, their work needs to be coordinated in such a way that the finished product meets all its goals. It wouldn’t be a surprise to find out that the exhaust engineer had to re-route the pipe in order to resolve some other clash and they ran out of time to fix the new problem before mass production had to start. Making complex machinery is difficult.
How about instead of playing a victim, stick a piece of tin foil over the pipe?
yeah, let’s blame the user for not fixing the manufacturer’s shitty design
The oil should change itself 😥
