And what a great job they’re doing! There’s definitely no double standards here, oh no. *cough Israel *cough.
NATO only acts to prevent the expansion of the United States’ rival imperial powers, like Russia and China. It’s nothing more than a military alliance of western powers to maintain US hegemony. It’s all well and good that it resists and deters Russia imperialism in Europe, but it has zero interest in stopping US imperialism in the middle east as carried out by the US’ favorite proxy state and stationary aircraft carrier, Israel. NATO isn’t attempting to maintain peace in Europe out of a genuine desire to protect human life, but simply to preserve the status quo and balance of power.
And if you’re wondering how Trump wanting to leave NATO fits into all this, it’s precisely because NATO preserves the balance of power. He thinks he can benefit from destabilizing the political climate of the world because he’s a scumbag who takes advantage of chaos to advance his interests, and he doesn’t care if other authoritarian leaders are able to do the same. The US could lose global standing, but that’s a risk he’s willing to take if it helps him consolidate power internally.
Well that’s what everyone hoped was happening but now it’s just there for rescue efforts after the attempt to intimate get them to give the aid to Israel failed
Defense Minister Guido Crosetto urged the flotilla to offload aid instead in Cyprus, suggesting Italy and the Catholic Church could deliver it safely to Palestinians. He emphasized that Italy couldn’t guarantee the flotilla’s security once it entered another country’s waters, noting Israel might view it as a “hostile act.”
Trump literally attempted to leave NATO at the end of his last term and frequently talks about it this term. If this is how Trump fights against China then I supremely hope he sails away and starts fighting for the Chinese, soon.
Again your logic was anyone fighting authoritarians = good and fighting poverty.
Trump uses the excuse of fighting China to fuck up the economy with tariffs that not only does nothing to hurt China but only screws over the American economy. But since it’s fighting China it’s therefore good by your logic.
Trump literally attempted to leave NATO at the end of his last term and frequently talks about it this term. If this is how Trump fights against China then I supremely hope he sails away and starts fighting for the Chinese, soon.
None of that is at all relevant to why you claim NATO is fighting povert. Or why that logic can then be used to imply trump good
You seem confused about how my question relates to the meme? It’s a litmus test for whether or not a person is the sort of Tankie who supports China sending Uyghurs to work camps until they die, who supports Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, who supports Pig Butchering Scams and Psyops which get people like Trump elected. If you wonder if a person actually opposes capitalism or actually just opposes western democracies, you can ask them their opinion on NATO and they will clear up any confusion.
Is NATO fighting against poverty now?
Banjo has told me he wants Mexicans kept in cages because they committed crimes. Ignore anything they say.
They think when Republicans do it, they’re evil. When Democrats do it, it’s moral and just.
It’s just interesting to see what they’ll say today.
Or interesting when they suddenly stop after flawed logic pointed out in their silly attempt to score points
The same old tired bullshit, unable to read anything that doesn’t agree with them.
https://lemvotes.org/comment/lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21667688
I mean they downvote and act like that’s a response to “please treat humans with dignity and respect”
In their mind if not with them then aren’t worth respect
Why else would they be for the removal of anyone they disagree with and/or committed crimes?
NATO is preventing war and the expansion of authoritarian states across the globe, so yes, in a roundabout way, it is.
And what a great job they’re doing! There’s definitely no double standards here, oh no. *cough Israel *cough.
NATO only acts to prevent the expansion of the United States’ rival imperial powers, like Russia and China. It’s nothing more than a military alliance of western powers to maintain US hegemony. It’s all well and good that it resists and deters Russia imperialism in Europe, but it has zero interest in stopping US imperialism in the middle east as carried out by the US’ favorite proxy state and stationary aircraft carrier, Israel. NATO isn’t attempting to maintain peace in Europe out of a genuine desire to protect human life, but simply to preserve the status quo and balance of power.
And if you’re wondering how Trump wanting to leave NATO fits into all this, it’s precisely because NATO preserves the balance of power. He thinks he can benefit from destabilizing the political climate of the world because he’s a scumbag who takes advantage of chaos to advance his interests, and he doesn’t care if other authoritarian leaders are able to do the same. The US could lose global standing, but that’s a risk he’s willing to take if it helps him consolidate power internally.
Israel literally is not a member of NATO. Another nation could invade Israel right now and it would NOT trigger a NATO response.
NATO members Itally and Spain sent NATO Military forces to protect the Gaza Aid Flotilla recently. https://www.newsweek.com/nato-warships-protecting-gaza-convoy-against-israel-attack-greta-thunberg-10786877
Neither was Libya but that didn’t stop NATO from destroying it
Well that’s what everyone hoped was happening but now it’s just there for rescue efforts after the attempt to
intimateget them to give the aid to Israel failedhttps://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-flotilla-italy-spain-000441922caa2c88cf73203e83d3e6e2
By that logic trump is good because he’s fighting against China
Trump literally attempted to leave NATO at the end of his last term and frequently talks about it this term. If this is how Trump fights against China then I supremely hope he sails away and starts fighting for the Chinese, soon.
Again your logic was anyone fighting authoritarians = good and fighting poverty.
Trump uses the excuse of fighting China to fuck up the economy with tariffs that not only does nothing to hurt China but only screws over the American economy. But since it’s fighting China it’s therefore good by your logic.
None of that is at all relevant to why you claim NATO is fighting povert. Or why that logic can then be used to imply trump good
You seem confused about how my question relates to the meme? It’s a litmus test for whether or not a person is the sort of Tankie who supports China sending Uyghurs to work camps until they die, who supports Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, who supports Pig Butchering Scams and Psyops which get people like Trump elected. If you wonder if a person actually opposes capitalism or actually just opposes western democracies, you can ask them their opinion on NATO and they will clear up any confusion.
And what does that have to do with your logic saying trump is good?
Also a weird purity test for someone that wants a big tent party.
lmfao, I even already clarified Trump is sidingnot with me but WITH YOU on this issue.
Not a purity test, a polarity test to separate us from enemies of mankind and themselves. Tankies are in the GOP base.
No you ignored it and deflected by saying trump wants to leave NATO which is unrelated to the logic of him being good because anti China.
Who do you think are the enemies?