• KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    24 hours ago

    I’m sorry, what? Are you confused as to how things get to the Supreme Court? It’s here because of an appeal.

    Lower courts said “yeah no, this shit is illegal, stop it” and the Supreme Court said “well we are going to look at this, so you can keep doing things the way you were until we do.”

    The Supreme Court could also have said “well, we are going to look at this, so you have to stop until we do.”

    Using your logic, they shouldn’t be doing it because a lower court ruled it illegal.

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      23 hours ago

      That is not the only way it gets to the supreme court, it’s a way. And yes, that would mean they are not exhausted and thusly it isn’t settled case law for most purposes.

      Cool, and they could have issued an injunction, that isn’t typically a supreme court deal. The supreme court intentionally stays out of minor procedurals especially when they aren’t asked to.

      That’s an injunction bud.

      No, they shouldn’t be doing it because it’s immoral. No one was granted an injunction. Why are you upset about the supreme court not doing something it isn’t expected or intended to do.

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        21 hours ago

        I don’t know how else to explain to you that you are simply incorrect in this instance. Bottom line, the Supreme Court made a temporary ruling stating that ICE could continue to stop people based on racial profiling.

        Do literally 2 seconds of googling and you can confirm it: https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/09/supreme-court-allows-federal-officers-to-more-freely-make-immigration-stops-in-los-angeles/

        Take a full minute and you might even find the actual order.

        Split hairs on the wording all you want, the fact is that you’re just wrong.

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          20 hours ago

          It’s not a temporary ruling. They’re allowing it to continue because no one secured an injunction.

          Just as an fyi scotusblog is on no way related to SCOTUS.

          You could read your own link, there’s that.

          Monday’s order by the Supreme Court puts Frimpong’s ruling on hold while the Trump administration’s appeals continue. In an opinion agreeing with the decision to grant the government’s request for a stay, Justice Brett Kavanaugh emphasized what he characterized as the narrow role of judges in immigration cases. Judges, he wrote, “may have views on which policy approach is better or fairer. But judges are not appointed to make those policy calls. We merely ensure,” he stressed, “that the Executive Branch acts within the confines of the Constitution and federal statutes.”

          SCOTUS says “that’s not is us dawg”.

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            20 hours ago

            So, the part where they granted a stay… means nothing?

            There didn’t need to be a injunction. The lower courts ruled it illegal. They were forced to stop. The Trump admin appealed, and the Supreme Court granted the Trump admin a stay until the appeal is heard. They were then allowed to continue.

            Long story short, the Supreme Court allowed racial profiling to continue.

            Why is this so difficult for you to understand? I’m genuinely confused on where your confusion is coming from.

            Let me ask a question that might clear this up: Had the Supreme Court done literally nothing, would ICE be allowed to racially profile people?

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              19 hours ago

              It means the motion for injunction is denied and the last ruling carries. It’s also specifically not a new ruling.

              It did for this stay to exist given that it’s a denial of injunction. Yes, that’s how a stay works. It is amusing that you’re talking down to me about not reading it but it’s quite clear you’ve both not read what you’ve provided nor are you actually familiar with the subject you’re talking about.

              Correct, until they rule on it. Again that’s how a stay works.

              It’s not difficult, you just don’t know what you’re talking about but confident morons abound so here we are.

              Yes. It’s not clearly established until it’s ruled on by the supreme court or ruled by a lower court and the supreme court reviews and affirms it.

              Seriously, we could have a conversation but you chose a flight you’re clearly not prepared for.

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                18 hours ago

                … Yes. It’s obvious that’s how a stay works. The stay that the Supreme Court decided to give.

                And no. If it hadn’t gone to the Supreme Court, or the Supreme Court had decided to not review it, ICE would not be allowed to racially profile.

                Literally no one is saying the Supreme Court said it was legal. We are saying the Supreme Court allowed it.

                The lower courts ruled against the Trump administration. The stay was to prevent that lower court ruling.

                You’re splitting hairs on wording.

                I’m done. You’re obviously arguing in bad faith here. Literally all news sources and legal reviews of the situation agree, meanwhile you’re being intentionally obtuse.

                Good day.

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                  The stay that the Supreme Court decided to give.

                  Is there an end to that sentence or what?

                  If it hadn’t gone before the court yeah, that didn’t happen it was immediately appealed.

                  And if crocodiles were bananas they might grow on trees. It has nothing to do with reality but fuck it, I guess we’re just tossing out what ifs like they matter. They did not allow it, federal law might allow it, a lower court said it’s not allowed and the supreme court is saying we don’t know, we want to hear it until then continue what you were doing before. They’re just not preventing it because the fed says things would be irreparably harmed and the other movent did not provide a good enough argument for an injunction.

                  You could say the federal government is allowing it and you’d be right.

                  You could say a bad argument allowed it, you can’t say taking no action is the same as taking an action when it comes to judgements and rulings.

                  You’re mad at a flawed legal system that overwhelmingly favors the state which is reasonable. In this case there actually doing it by the book and that’s what we actually want.

                  You’re splitting hairs on wording.

                  When speaking of legalities?! Gosh golly I wonder if linguistics and phraseology matter in the legal system.