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🐑🇸 🇭 🇪 🇪 🇵 🇱 🇪🐑@lemmy.world to Fuck Cars@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

and no this is not an invitation for oil addicts to rant about EVs

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and no this is not an invitation for oil addicts to rant about EVs

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🐑🇸 🇭 🇪 🇪 🇵 🇱 🇪🐑@lemmy.world to Fuck Cars@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/us-measure-ban-products-mineral-mined-child-labor-100610654

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/01/child-labour-behind-smart-phone-and-electric-car-batteries/

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2023/02/08/battery-push-by-tesla-and-other-ev-makers-raises-child-labor-concerns/

    https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/china-lithium-ion-batteries-child-labour-us-trade-war

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      Your first three articles are about children mining COBALT in Africa. Not mining lithium like I said.

      Cobalt is not required for making EVs. It is just an ingredient in one of the many different battery types.

      Your 4th link is about using child labor in China to build batteries. Not mine material.

      Conclusion: you either didn’t read the articles or you are trying to move the goalpost.

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        What about the other two links? 🤔

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          Theres 4 links that I see. I commented on the first 3 then the 4th.

          If that went unnoticed by you then how is anyone supposed to trust your research on the subject?

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            Oh sorry, I skipped “three”

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              I wonder how many words you “skipped” while you “researched” the subject. 🤔

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        And they’re needed in the construction of Lithium-Ion batteries, which the vast majority of EVs use, you’re clearly arguing in bad faith over semantics. My bad, since children are dying mining for some other mineral it’s okay, my mistake.

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          Again, cobalt isn’t needed to make batteries and there are many other battery chemistries that can be used in EVs. If that is really a concern of yours then you would be arguing for EV manufacturers to use a different battery chemistry. Which they are already transitioning to.

          But you aren’t arguing for manufacturers to change battery chemistry. You’re cherry picking information to argue that EVs are the same as ICEs vehicles. Which makes your intentions obvious.

          You argue against EVs then claim to want to end car dependency. So you want everyone riding busses and trains run on diesel?

          Climate change is real and we need to end our dependency on fossil fuels to prevent the extinction of our species and EVs are a required step in doing that.

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