Depends on your position and workplace: Some really don’t care when you come in as long as you’re getting shit done, others are the opposite. I’ve worked both and prefer working at places that don’t care as long as things run smoothly.
I mean yeah? I don’t know how employment contracts work elsewhere but here it says when you should be at work and of course by (repeatedly) breaking your contract you’ll get sacked. Fair enough imo
It’s not necessarily contract work, but yeah I guess you could describe it that way.
You get hired for $X/year, and that’s what you make. Your paycheck, if weekly for example, will always be $X/52 regardless of how many or how few hours you worked.
If your contract demands certain amount of work but doesn’t demand certain hours then I’m guessing they aren’t the ones who the discussion is about. Unless the employer is demanding stuff in addition to the contract
If you literally did nothing, you might get fired or at least your contract would not be renewed depending on who you are/where you are. Some people actually do that though, usually some nepobaby, and manage to avoid getting fired because they have some connection to higher ups.
I could probably get away with doing little to nothing for a good while because I’ve built up a lot of good will and favors at my job, but eventually I’d probably get canned. I’d also get pretty bored with that pretty quickly, I actually do like my job, I just don’t usually go all out when I’m there.
Salary means you get paid a certain amount of money every year but everything else is defined by your contract: You might not have to come in at all if your contract doesn’t stipulate that, you could even literally be paid to do nothing or you could be on call 24/7 or anything in between.
This is not the same thing as contractors, who are not employed by the company and bill for their work at an hourly rate. Salary is more stable income usually with decent to good benefits in the US and can work any number of hours (or lack thereof). Contractors can make more per hour, but still have to cover their own medical, dental, retirement, etc.
You’d be super wrong there, at least in my case: I’m late all the time, not only do I still have my job, I get great reviews and token raises every time I’m up for review. If I left, they’d be in trouble, they definitely won’t fire me. I don’t bust my ass and they understand I won’t be taking calls outside of designated hours, doing anything heroic, etc. but I am still very valuable to my employer.
I joked about having a job interview once during a meeting with leadership and it was one of the most awkward silences I’d ever heard until I told them I was just kidding: They thought I was serious and their terror was palpable. My manager once told me I’d have to commit multiple crimes to get fired when I made a joke about getting fired because there was an end of day meeting on a Friday.
I stay because it’s a chill job and I like most of the people I work with even though the pay isn’t amazing, but I could probably go somewhere else and make at least 30-50% more, though at the possible cost of more stress and less job security. My commute is pretty great too, 2 miles away and sometimes I even walk to work.
It’s not exactly a secret, but sure I guess? I’ve said hi to my boss, their boss, the CIO’s secretary, the CIO, etc. when coming in late plenty of times.
My boss, my boss’s boss, etc. - you work at the right place and are valuable enough, they 100% don’t care if you’re a little late, even if it’s every day! They let me leave early if I want too and if my lunch break runs a little long, that’s fine. Not every place is a micromanaged shithole.
On the other hand, if something runs late and I have to stay and address it, I don’t complain so I guess it’s a two way street. I’ve even come in early before when necessary (though it’s rare).
I don’t think they’ll be pretending to pay for long if you keep being late lol
Yeah… better to get there on time and then slack off at work.
Depends on your position and workplace: Some really don’t care when you come in as long as you’re getting shit done, others are the opposite. I’ve worked both and prefer working at places that don’t care as long as things run smoothly.
I mean yeah? I don’t know how employment contracts work elsewhere but here it says when you should be at work and of course by (repeatedly) breaking your contract you’ll get sacked. Fair enough imo
Lots of people work salary
Does that mean they are contracted for certain work but not certain hours or certain time of day?
It’s not necessarily contract work, but yeah I guess you could describe it that way.
You get hired for $X/year, and that’s what you make. Your paycheck, if weekly for example, will always be $X/52 regardless of how many or how few hours you worked.
Why not just put in zero hours?
Because you’re hired to get work done?
If your contract demands certain amount of work but doesn’t demand certain hours then I’m guessing they aren’t the ones who the discussion is about. Unless the employer is demanding stuff in addition to the contract
If you literally did nothing, you might get fired or at least your contract would not be renewed depending on who you are/where you are. Some people actually do that though, usually some nepobaby, and manage to avoid getting fired because they have some connection to higher ups.
I could probably get away with doing little to nothing for a good while because I’ve built up a lot of good will and favors at my job, but eventually I’d probably get canned. I’d also get pretty bored with that pretty quickly, I actually do like my job, I just don’t usually go all out when I’m there.
Salary means you get paid a certain amount of money every year but everything else is defined by your contract: You might not have to come in at all if your contract doesn’t stipulate that, you could even literally be paid to do nothing or you could be on call 24/7 or anything in between.
This is not the same thing as contractors, who are not employed by the company and bill for their work at an hourly rate. Salary is more stable income usually with decent to good benefits in the US and can work any number of hours (or lack thereof). Contractors can make more per hour, but still have to cover their own medical, dental, retirement, etc.
You’d be super wrong there, at least in my case: I’m late all the time, not only do I still have my job, I get great reviews and token raises every time I’m up for review. If I left, they’d be in trouble, they definitely won’t fire me. I don’t bust my ass and they understand I won’t be taking calls outside of designated hours, doing anything heroic, etc. but I am still very valuable to my employer.
I joked about having a job interview once during a meeting with leadership and it was one of the most awkward silences I’d ever heard until I told them I was just kidding: They thought I was serious and their terror was palpable. My manager once told me I’d have to commit multiple crimes to get fired when I made a joke about getting fired because there was an end of day meeting on a Friday.
I stay because it’s a chill job and I like most of the people I work with even though the pay isn’t amazing, but I could probably go somewhere else and make at least 30-50% more, though at the possible cost of more stress and less job security. My commute is pretty great too, 2 miles away and sometimes I even walk to work.
Have you got caught?
It’s not exactly a secret, but sure I guess? I’ve said hi to my boss, their boss, the CIO’s secretary, the CIO, etc. when coming in late plenty of times.
Seems your boss is pretty lenient about it
My boss, my boss’s boss, etc. - you work at the right place and are valuable enough, they 100% don’t care if you’re a little late, even if it’s every day! They let me leave early if I want too and if my lunch break runs a little long, that’s fine. Not every place is a micromanaged shithole.
On the other hand, if something runs late and I have to stay and address it, I don’t complain so I guess it’s a two way street. I’ve even come in early before when necessary (though it’s rare).