• tornavish@lemmy.cafe
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    2 days ago

    We better hurry up and do something about it because history is written by the winners

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      10 hours ago

      Yeah, but no.

      Just look at how the accounts of nazi generals shaped the way historians understood the war of Nazi Germany against the Soviet Union. All the myths, like the clean Wehrmacht or that the soviets just overwhelmed the nazis with superior numbers and no tactic, strategy or logistics at all was coined, popularized and published by nazi generals. And these guys are one of the most famous losers in history.

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        8 hours ago

        If I told you I didn’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, I would be proving myself correct

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      History is only written by the winners when the winners benefit their civilization.

      When, as has consistently happened in the latter days of past civilizations and as will be the case if Trump and the oligarchs and their fascist tools win, the winners solely benefit themselves and thus ultimately destroy their civilization, history is written by third parties.

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          22 hours ago

          … Because China is working to benefit their civilization. When that ceases to be the case their people will stop listening.

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              16 hours ago

              The CCP is guilty of some absolutely heinous things but high-level they do a lot of building and investing. It’s a lot of headline stuff but it’s better than what the US is doing. The US can’t even build public transit within most of its major cities and each state is constantly fighting with the other ones. The people in charge enrich themselves not quietly but as loud as possible.

              China sucks, but they do have at least a small point.

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                10 hours ago

                Talk about social issues not infrastructure. Rampant racism, capitalism, cultural homophobia, the skyrocketing unemployment rate.

                Sounds just like the US hahaha.

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              21 hours ago

              The general attitude of the people in China disagrees. I guess we can try to tell them we know better as we strip civil society down and burn the rest.

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                20 hours ago

                The general attitude is controlled by the CCP, as we know. Any dissent is quickly dealt with to maintain a hive mind that aligns with the CCP.