• scintilla@crust.piefed.social
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    6 days ago

    dbzer0 has weird vibes in general IMO. Their whole stance on gen AI feels super weird for anarchists to have to at least in its current form. Idk I didn’t keep a main on there for very long for a reason.

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      9 hours ago

      dbzer0 is absolutely a tankie instance. One of their original admins resigned because the others refused to return to anarchism

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      5 days ago

      Same, back when people requested to defed hex and their admins stood by the hex instance I knew I had to leave.
      They claim to be anarchists, but I swear it’s just to fool people.

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        So what are they then, do you think? Genuine question btw, as someone who is only starting to try to open my eyes here to see whatever is going on with it. Be as precise as you can possibly be.

        I’m sure if I asked one of those admins directly I would be told that I simply do not properly understand anarchy… which would also be correct (in my case:-).

        I also find it odd that while a bunch of instances opened up PieFed alternatives, e.g. World and Zip, dbzer0 did not.

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          13 hours ago

          They are anarchists, you can find my name in OPs picture if you want to know my views on tankies.

          Decisions are generally put to a vote in their governance comm, so they’re not going to suddenly block an entire community although it has been talked about before.

          As for the views of the “core” team, they’re diverse some are more supportive of “AES” places like China others aren’t. db0 their admin is probably the most likely to dislike the tankie side of things.

          There’s also some cultural differences between the tankie triad. I’d personally put Hexxers above ml and graders, because while they can be terminally online trolls they’re the most open to leftists who fall outside of the niche of Marxist-Leninism and their origin is split off from a Reddit community.

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            6 hours ago

            back when people requested to defed hex and their admins stood by the hex instance

            This makes it sound like there was such a petition though, in the past?

            I would argue that Hexbear users aren’t “open” to anything except arguing. It’s like a honeypot trap for humans - it only looks engaging until you get into it and realize that facts don’t matter so much as the appearance of a dunk.

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              Some people wanted to defederate, most iirc wanted to leave it up to the users to chose on a per account level to block the whole instance or only specific users.

              There’s huge cultural differences between the triad. Grad is probably some state backed psyop shit, .ml is the gateway “flagship” instance that enforces basic indoctrination, hexbear is the old reddit Chapo shit posters and much less ideological purists.

              They all suck, but if you put a gun to my head and said join one it wouldn’t be a hard choice.

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                I think it’s the same people actoss the triad, alts with different purposes - mask on, mask off, active trolling.

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          So what are they then, do you think?

          I think actual anarchist would not support instances dedicated to spread propaganda and those who encourage harrassing others.
          I honestly don’t know what label would fit them and I don’t think it matters.
          People and groups may label themselves or get labeled one way or another, I only care about what they do and the way they do things. They doing these kinds of things only tells me they are not people I want to side with.

          Also the whole sidding with AI and crypto as if that would be “true anarchism” is questionable at minimum.

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            2 days ago

            Thank you very much for making sure that I didn’t keep spreading this misinformation nonsense (I had forgotten that one was PieFed).

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    6 days ago

    My favorite part is when Davel tries to argue that he’s not a tankie by defending the Chinese government’s use of tanks against unarmed groups.

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    Literally the number one community on anarchist.nexus is devoted to internecine “warfare” against communities that Unruffled and friends don’t like.

    I actually agree that it’s a bad thing, all the incessant bitching to an echo-chamber audience saying whatever community is full of people who are pieces of shit and stupid and wrong. I don’t think it leads to any good things. But yes, one of the gossipiest of the gossips getting all upset about how there’s too much gossip and sniping is hilarious.

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      But yes, one of the gossipiest of the gossips getting all upset about how there’s too much gossip and sniping is hilarious.

      !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com has to be honest somewhere. The admins of that instance would probably have to jump in once in a while when things go out of hand.

      If an admin of SJW made such comment, would people have the same criticism due to !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works being hosted there?

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        4 days ago

        It’s not just that it is hosted there, it’s that this particular admin is active in the community and super passionate about constantly browbeating “shitlibs” which in his cosmology is most of the instances on Lemmy.