And a lot of the jobs that are truly awful and nobody wants to do … are bullshit jobs that don’t actually need to be done in the first place.
“no one wants to flip burgers for 7.25!” No shit buddy, maybe your business shouldn’t exist anymore
We could automate those jobs, yes, but then a lot of people would have no jobs at all.
In a society in which one’s material needs are not tied to one’s labour, this would not be a problem.
True, but we don’t have that society, yet we do have the ability to automate a lot of people out of a job.
So you see the problem.
We must ban automation!
Nah, we need to ban jobs and force automation on everything
I see several. Most notably that we seem to keep winding up with leaders that want to enrich themselves rather than make thing better for everyone.
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“nobody wants to do this” = “I don’t want to do this and I have no imagination”
Props to the original poster for being open-minded in their reaction
But treating people like people with needs and desires as well as dreams doesn’t raise the bottom line! Cries in capitalism /s
This is why I’m moving away from programming for a boss and am looking for jobs where I don’t get the stress of countless meetings and project manager bullshit. I just want a nice job where I don’t feel too much stress and make enough money to live decently. Then I can continue working on opensource projects as my hobby.
I really dislike all the “ceremonies” that seem to be involved in software development now. It’s just so much useless ritual.
“We can discuss it at the stand-up”.
Join a cooperative!
It’s our time to shine!Thank you for the link.
That seems interesting.
Would be cool. I’ve tried, and was even able to get an interview with one, but was rejected :( This job market sucks; everyone’s getting many more applications than they’re able to deal with, and cooperatives are more hesitant to accept new members than regular businesses. I guess I’d have to create a new cooperative if I wanted to work in one, but I’m bad at/hate securing and negotiating contracts.
I’d have to create a new cooperative if I wanted to work in one
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I’m bad at/hate securing and negotiating contracts.

And because you’re not a psycopath, you’ll be able to amend them to suit both the syndicates’ interests and that of the new recruit as you go. Contracts should be living documents, not blood and tear contracts.
I like the sentiment but working at a sewage plant is way more interesting than a lot of jobs out there.
True, but there are a lot of people who love monotony. There are people out there who go to work all day and then come home and, as a hobby, grind some numbers on a screen in a video game.
It doesn’t matter how boring it is or how much you think it sucks, somebody out there wants to do it.
And most of the jobs that suck so much we might not have enough people volunteer for them can just be abolished anyway. We don’t need McDonald’s.
I love monotony at work. I love being able to predict how much energy I need for a day and how much stress to expect.
You need some breaks, and a few different tasks to work on through the day (e.g. sweeping all day sucks but cleaning the same space each day is super chill).
I often feel like I’d be a legendary peasant lol, I love to work labour outside, then cook, and do handicrafts in the evening for mental stimulation.
Basically everything tedious in life can be enjoyable if nobody is expecting you to approach it as if you’re a robotic arm on the assembly floor.
If jobs end up not being done, it’s because they have been deemed not necessary by the people. There are enough weird people to fill just about every niche, if filling that niche also allows them to live.

There is no job that someone somewhere doesn’t want to do.
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