Severing ties with the US can take more than a year and cost thousands of dollars. But Paul, Ella, Margot and thousands of others feel they have no choice
There’s a lot I didn’t know about the process. It’d be interesting to get the view of US members of this community.
If we ever get to the point where whining on social media is more valued than voting then just fucking shoot us.
What amazing principles these Americans have. Running away from a fight for their values because they don’t want to be judged. Well your being judged. We think you suck because you let this happen when you could have held your ground.
If Nazis take power in my country and I have to opportunity to leave, I’m taking my wife and (currently unborn) child and getting the fuck out. Is it selfish? Perhaps, but my responsibility is first and foremost to my family. I don’t want to raise a child under fascism. Likewise if there is a war. I’m not dying to defend my country (assuming it wasn’t my country that started the war in the first place).
Unfortunately the list of places to go that aren’t equally shit is getting shorter and shorter…
That list is getting shorter and shorter because we’re letting a global media superpower fall to fascism.
That’s the real problem with the line of saving yourself; it’s only a temporary measure. The longer you let fascism fester, the more it expands. Nowhere is safe.
The government Americans have is one Americans freely chose. But not everyone voted for it, and expecting them to hang around and fix the errors of the majority is dubious logically. Where does this duty to risk life and limb to save others (many of whom hate you already and would hate you more if you tried) from the consequences of their own actions come from?
If everyone else jumped off a bridge, would you feel a responsibility to jump after them?
these are people who haven’t lived in the US for decades. Whole lives in other countries. What struck me was the one who held onto it at the request of her husband - who had lived through strife and wanted the ability to flee to the US in case of war. Now it’s no longer a viable escape hatch.
Perhaps none of this matters in a cosmic sense but it does matter to those facing government-sanctioned organised violence and social insanity in their everyday lives as many Americans have to do.
If we ever get to the point where whining on social media is more valued than voting then just fucking shoot us.
What amazing principles these Americans have. Running away from a fight for their values because they don’t want to be judged. Well your being judged. We think you suck because you let this happen when you could have held your ground.
If Nazis take power in my country and I have to opportunity to leave, I’m taking my wife and (currently unborn) child and getting the fuck out. Is it selfish? Perhaps, but my responsibility is first and foremost to my family. I don’t want to raise a child under fascism. Likewise if there is a war. I’m not dying to defend my country (assuming it wasn’t my country that started the war in the first place).
Unfortunately the list of places to go that aren’t equally shit is getting shorter and shorter…
That list is getting shorter and shorter because we’re letting a global media superpower fall to fascism.
That’s the real problem with the line of saving yourself; it’s only a temporary measure. The longer you let fascism fester, the more it expands. Nowhere is safe.
The government Americans have is one Americans freely chose. But not everyone voted for it, and expecting them to hang around and fix the errors of the majority is dubious logically. Where does this duty to risk life and limb to save others (many of whom hate you already and would hate you more if you tried) from the consequences of their own actions come from?
If everyone else jumped off a bridge, would you feel a responsibility to jump after them?
Irony?
these are people who haven’t lived in the US for decades. Whole lives in other countries. What struck me was the one who held onto it at the request of her husband - who had lived through strife and wanted the ability to flee to the US in case of war. Now it’s no longer a viable escape hatch.
When you stay, they tell you to leave
When you leave, they tell you to stay
it doesn’t matter. none of this matters
Perhaps none of this matters in a cosmic sense but it does matter to those facing government-sanctioned organised violence and social insanity in their everyday lives as many Americans have to do.