we have a tendency to think that facts in themselves are persuasive, they aren’t
or that if you show the logic they will be convinced, they won’t
Conservatives know that people don’t think and just accept what they are told if you have their trust or respect and if you tell them it’s for a good cause. Maybe give a supporting fact, which may or may not true.
The belief that people can be convinced by facts and logic is the greatest failing in all moderate left leaning political parties and is a belief that is ironically not supported by reality.
Damn that’s a really interesting point actually. I tend to be fact, logic and emotionally driven lol and I really struggle to understand when people aren’t grasping the facts of a matter. I know sometimes I can get emotional so sometimes I will take all the emotion out of my stance and focus on the logic and facts - thinking that will be more understood than injecting emotions into the argument but it still doesn’t work.
Disclosure; I’m autistic so I honestly just thought this was me not being able to communicate, which maybe it sort of is, but it also seems like a flaw to not be able to accept facts as facts and to see logic? I also think online is a terrible measurement of effective communication though.
So…how do you be persuasive? The only answers I can think of by what I observe are all very cynical but possibly accurate? That it basically has to be painted as something that directly benefits the person you are trying to convince? How else can you effectively persuade someone? Genuine questions here 😅
I guess my persistant belief that facts and logic can persuade people is a case in point - no matter how often I am shown it doesn’t actually work the belief persists!
we have a tendency to think that facts in themselves are persuasive, they aren’t
or that if you show the logic they will be convinced, they won’t
Conservatives know that people don’t think and just accept what they are told if you have their trust or respect and if you tell them it’s for a good cause. Maybe give a supporting fact, which may or may not true.
The belief that people can be convinced by facts and logic is the greatest failing in all moderate left leaning political parties and is a belief that is ironically not supported by reality.
Damn that’s a really interesting point actually. I tend to be fact, logic and emotionally driven lol and I really struggle to understand when people aren’t grasping the facts of a matter. I know sometimes I can get emotional so sometimes I will take all the emotion out of my stance and focus on the logic and facts - thinking that will be more understood than injecting emotions into the argument but it still doesn’t work.
Disclosure; I’m autistic so I honestly just thought this was me not being able to communicate, which maybe it sort of is, but it also seems like a flaw to not be able to accept facts as facts and to see logic? I also think online is a terrible measurement of effective communication though.
So…how do you be persuasive? The only answers I can think of by what I observe are all very cynical but possibly accurate? That it basically has to be painted as something that directly benefits the person you are trying to convince? How else can you effectively persuade someone? Genuine questions here 😅
I guess my persistant belief that facts and logic can persuade people is a case in point - no matter how often I am shown it doesn’t actually work the belief persists!
I think the belief comes from respect, you respect the agency of others, you would never tell them lies or try to persuade using emotion
that is not how humans are made, we are foremost social animals , so if you want to change minds you must first gain trust