• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Gonna keep saying it. Don’t care how much I get downvoted.

    1. She’s a woman and America has made it very clear it isn’t ready for a female president, even when they’re up against a felon rapist pedophile with 2 impeachments and a failed presidency under his belt. I’ve voted for women for president twice now. I’ll do it again. Doesn’t mean that changes the reality that is this fucked up nation.

    2. She’s younger than any president, ever. That matters to a lot of people.

    3. Her political resume isn’t that impressive yet. That still matters to Democrat voters.

    4. She’s VERY liberal and that makes centrists, and even some lefties closer to the center, uncomfortable. She’ll lose those voters to 3rd parties or people that just stay home.

    At this point I have no expectations for Americans to learn from mistakes. So I assume this will all fall on deaf ears. I’m almost at the point that I simply don’t care anymore.

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    2 months ago

    I like AOC. I would vote for AOC. AOC will not win POTUS. We’re tried this twice already, and a woman who has had years of non-stop character assassination attempts lobbed at her is not going to win. It’s terrible that sexism and lies play such a big role, but that’s where we are as a nation. Dems had the right idea in 2020 setting up the first woman president via VP. Then they did the worst job possible of handling any potential transition, because of course they did.

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      You’re getting downvotes, but you’re right. She’s not ready. A Senate seat first.

      The reality is she will run as an independent, split the vote, Donnie Junior wins.

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        Trump didn’t have a senate seat first.

        There have been young presidents before

        I think the young will come out and vote for her

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          Trump didn’t have a senate seat first.

          He ran on the Republican ticket. Republicans have no standards except “immigrants and LGBTQ+ and liberals bad”. Democrat nominees actually have to have serious resumes.

          There have been young presidents before

          She’s younger than any president, ever.

          I think the young will come out and vote for her

          Know how many times I’ve seen people say young people would turn out big and then they didn’t? Literally every time.

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            Ahh yes, the serious resumes have AIPAC money on them. Those serious resumes are an anathema to voters who have consistent standards.

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        The vote for the dems is already split. The DNC wont abandon AIPAC’s genocide support-- and they dont have enough voters to win while a fairly massive block of the party progressives wont support genocide even with a gun to their head. Even a united democratic party barely has the votes to win these days, and the DNC is already playing chicken/hostage games with us again.

        Same as last time. Until the centrists learn to have principles and stand up for their voters instead of for donors they will continue to lose what should be easy elections to idiots and criminals.

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        Bush, Clinton, bush, Regan, Ford, Eisenhower, Truman, Roosevelt, Hoover, Coolidge, Wilson, McKinley.

        The majority of US presidents between 1900 and 2000 never spent time as senators, most in no foreign policy position what so ever. Most didn’t even serve time in an elected federal office. Even less exposure to foreign policy in a governor position than a house rep.

        Why is it different here? Who would you suggest, who has been “in the senate” or some other role more exposed to foreign policy? The other potential candidates that have even close to her level of public support have even less foreign policy experience.

        This is absurd, it is nonsense, any excuse to discredit the only candidate who has real public support, not just a bunch of corporate funded think pieces.

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      Hardly. This is just a massive misinformation campaign aimed to disenfranchise Democrats and boost Republican turnout.

      She’s never shown interest in running for President and most recently has said she has more work and can do more work in Congress.

      There’s a reason why this post has been reposted like 5x in the last 24hrs and has gained so much debate. Because it’s made up ragebait.

      Edit: if you need more proof just look at the latest push now about Warren from Axios.

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        If you want change, get Chris Smalls, if you want incrementalism get AOC. Why would AOC call Nanci “moma bear”? Because she wants in on that club, and it cost her some time and humiliation, but she is in.

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        She will probably be using the same phrase “Are you ready for a revolution?”

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        Believe it or not, but there was a time were Nancy Pelosi’s progressive promises, especially regarding healthcare, was a big part of her early career (1987–1997) and beyond:

        *1987–1997: Early Career Focus

        • AIDS Funding & Advocacy: Pelosi made increased federal funding to combat AIDS a top priority, reflecting her district’s needs and her commitment to LGBTQ+ and public health issues

        • Medicaid Expansion: She worked to expand Medicaid for HIV/AIDS patients and accelerate research.

        • Incremental Reform: Her approach was pragmatic, focusing on targeted healthcare improvements.

        *2000s: Shift Toward Broader Healthcare Reform

        • Affordable Care Act (2010): Pelosi played a pivotal role in passing the ACA, which expanded coverage.

        and this interview from 1997 she even talks supportingly about single payer. https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/nancy-pelosi-on-single-payer-health-care/4682193

        Nancy Pelosi, back in the day, was very much like todays AOC.

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          Four incremental healthcare reforms over a 38-year political career is not a meaningful comparison to AOC. That’s a real stretch, mydude.

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    Just what we need AOCIA to continue the zionazi genocide status quo! As fake as Mamdani and Bernie rofl

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        ROFL yeah leave it to a nazi.ca user to continue the proud tradition of labeling actual leftists “bots” whenever they speak out against obvious plants to continue the right-wing ratcheting