Things like “Fiat stands for “Fix It Again Tony”” etc.

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    Hard to go wrong with Toyota but let’s not pretend they didn’t have to face one of the most expensive (per vehicle) recall ever on multiple models with the full frame replacement on their trucks…

    Honda is another brand that’s extremely reliable in general.

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      If you’re not in the States, Hyundai and Kia are in the top 5 for reliability, and are much more affordable than Toyota and Honda

      Best avoided if you live in that one country who’s manufacturing laws are designed to benefit shareholders rather than consumers though lol

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        The wave of cars being stolen in the US via the use of USB cords has soured me on those brands permanently.

        The fact that the vulnerability was fixed via a software patch did not do wonders for my opinion either.

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            Location is irrelevant … That was choice by Hyundai/Kia, to cheap out and remove the immobilizers.

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              Which they only did in the States. Nowhere else. Because they could. Because they have to be competitive with US manufacturers, who are all pulling the same shit

              There’s a good reason US-made cars don’t sell well outside the US

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                Nope - US manufacturers are NOT pulling the same shit. Kia/Hyundai are the only brand in the US without immobilizers because they thought they could skimp there instead of a posher interior or more electro-gadgets. Only in the US because the law at that time didn’t require it, but other brands who also sell worldwide (where it is absolutely required) didn’t consider this an option. Kia/Hyundai clearly did. It was a stupid, stupid call and it should impact their reputation. If they skimp on something as elemental as security, where else have they skimped…?