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It’s an easier out than admitting they’re uninformed or just plain wrong.
I somehow read that as un-uniformed.
Hot.
either russian or chinese bot. lol
Those two countries make up a large part of the world together, and furthermore many other countries align with their views. I think the point of this “meme” is that dismissing those views as fringe risks normalizing only a small part of the global discourse.
i think that’s the point of this trend – an attempt to make important subject like genocide and ethnic cleansing feel more like astroturfed concern.
I feel like a lot of those things are entirely orthogonal to what side one chooses. Like, Russia attacks Ukraine, the US attacks Iran, China does ethnic cleansing (edit: I don’t think that’s the case, but Western media claim that), Israel does too. So the best we can do as regular citizens is to ensure we don’t restrict our views.
China does ethnic cleansing
This is, to the best of my knowledge and research ability, not the case
I agree. I don’t think it’s the case and evidence seems to point that way. Edited for correctness.
Would you mind describing your research process for anyone reading this thread in the future? I agree and came to the same conclusion. There simply isn’t enough evidence to support the claim.
China does ethnic cleansing
this is news to me; where does it come from?
Jim Cornette looking mf
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I agree with the sentiment but by god the pacing of the joke in this meme is awful
hehe already had the pleasure of interacting with these lemmy liberals they seem to get mighty scratched when you point out nazi ukraine propaganda 😂
I tried to make a Russian bot… Ended up with a TAS version of super Mario 64, it was rushing though damn my lisp
Yes, that’s me, Russian bot Boris ‘30 minute’ Gorbachev
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Context to the global south?
People where I live have opinions about things that when you write on Lemmy and Reddit get accused you of being a Russian bot or trying to influence never ending USAmerican elections as if they (USAmericans) live in a democracy and meme posts to a niche international community of open source software with around 40k active users matters.
as if […] meme posts to a niche international community of open source software with around 40k active users matters.
Hard disagree. One post can spark a thought process in the right person at the right place. I’ve seen this enough, not only on Lemmy.
ok but I think you’re delusional
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Can you give us an example of one of those opinions?
Off the top of my head?
- USA and Europe are the authoritarian masters of a internationalist capitalist empire that are bad actors and the actual “axis of evil”
- NATO is part of a global order that promotes and projects western imperial military interests and exists to reinforce US/EU weapons manufacturer sales and use.
- Hamas are heroes.
- Hezbollah are heroes.
- China would be a better steward of a global economic order than the US/EU capitalist empires of the past 500 years and we do not believe the Chinese have the same imperial ambitions.
- The USA is not a democracy, it is an oligarchy with a fixed political structure that has nothing to do with what the people there want or vote for.
- White people in the USA are settler petite bourgeois and not part of the global proletariat. They are not allies, they are enemies.
- There is no difference between a white American and an Israeli
- Donald Trump isn’t an aberration of US politics and is par for the course. He is not a foreign asset or brought to power by Russia and is in fact the most American thing ever.
- It was in fact the US who over threw the Russian government and installed a president there. Putin and the Russian capitalist oligarchs are mercenaries who typically work for the US but have fallen from favor and are being attacked now to balkanize the region for profit.
The US isn’t an oligarchy, but Trump isn’t an aberration?
The US is an oligarchy, not a democracy, which means Trump, an oligarch, isn’t an aberation.
Oh! I was reading the whole list as the POV of bad opinions, not OPs opinions opposing other common opinions. It all makes much more sense.
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Saying Hamas and Hezbollah are heroes is garbage. You can support Palestinian rights, oppose Israeli abuses, and still recognize that murdering civilians, taking hostages, repressing opponents, and serving authoritarian religious movements isn’t heroic.
Typical white savior bullshit. You offer nothing, you have no solutions, you do nothing to support Palestinian rights, you do nothing to oppose Israel but are also the one who knows the one true way to do this? All while living in the empire and paying for the structures in the world that cause the abuse of Palestine, Lebanon and other places. IF you are so certain that what you say is true, why don’t you do literally anything? They are the only ones resisting. You are doing nothing. They are heroes.
The China claim is also garbage. Criticizing Western imperialism doesn’t mean pretending China has no imperial ambitions or would somehow be a gentle, democratic world leader. That’s just swapping one form of empire worship for another.
Chinese imperial ambitions are different and not hell bent on global domination. Unlike Europe, China has been a global hegemon for thousands of years. Will they be perfect? No, will they be better and more willing to operate in a multipolar world than the west? I believe that
The claim that all white Americans are class enemies is racist nonsense wearing Marxist vocabulary. A white cashier or warehouse worker doesn’t own capital because they’re white. Racial privilege and economic exploitation can both exist at the same time.
Sorry the truth hurts, white devil. The white cashier in the US supports its empire and imperial systems. The white nurse is part of the settler class that seized native lands and refuses to return or even pay the people you stole it from the money you are legally required to in the treaties you signed. The US is a settler colonial disease and its citizens - white americans - are complicit in its crimes. To call someone racist for calling out white supremacy is hilarious to me. Racism only flows from whites, the global proletariat can not be racist to white people because we lack the power to enforce our racial bias. You are the racist because of how you live your life.
“There is no difference between a white American and an Israeli” is also nonsense. Neither group is politically, racially, or morally uniform. An American nurse in Ohio isn’t the same as an armed West Bank settler, and an Israeli peace activist isn’t the same as Netanyahu.
Netanyahu is literally a fucking American. There are no Israeli “peace” activists. If they were a peace activist they would leave Israel. Israel, like the US, has no right to exist. Like Rhodesia, they must be dismantled.
The last claim is mostly conspiracy theory. The US did meddle in post-Soviet Russia and supported disastrous economic policies under Yeltsin. But it didn’t install Putin as a mercenary and then decide to break Russia apart for profit. Putin has his own ideology, power base, ambitions, and responsibility for his actions.
Using the language of the CIA to discount historical facts then misrepresented what I said. I never said the US installed Putin I was talking about Yeltsin, and in another comment I clarified Putin came up through the FSB and leveraged his connections in Russia to come to power. He is a mercenary that works for the highest bidder.
The garbage parts are the terrorist hero worship, China worship, racial essentialism, and the claim that every world event is secretly controlled by Washington.
You are a propagandized imperial stooge of the empire you live in. You are the enemy of the free people of the world. It is not racial essentialism to state that White USAmericans are part of a specific petite bourgeois class of settlers. I didn’t claim all white people around the entire world are the same, it is specific to the white USAmericans. I also never made the claim that every world event is secretly controlled by Washington you just made that up because you are discussing in bad faith and from a position of perceived authority. I said a handful of specific events were orchestrated by the Empire administrated from Washington. The only utter garage in this thread is you and your worthless life.
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The Irony of a German who lives in the one of the most evil and authoritarian place on earth, that pats themselves on the back for being so progressive and free while taking part in a global economic system of world wide extraction by violence where they are part of the authority calling people authoritarian is actually funny. Nazi scum are still nazi scum when you are in between your regular periods of local genocides.
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“Everyone who disagrees with me is both an evil foreigner and not human, a fairy tale for fascists in denial”
Death to the USA
The implication here is that it’s a human reacting to it, not an actual bot, so therefore you’re saying Russians are inherently bots. This is just naked racism.
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