• VAK@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      They have put in proper rule of law, so not like ccp. And although it’s defacto single party, it’s not de jure. But yeah, freedom of expression-wise it’s below average.

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        14 days ago

        Rule of law is not so different from corruption in Singapore which literally just a tax haven. It goes from “I know a guy who’ll take 100k to fix this” to “I know a guy who will incorporate a shell company for 100k to fix this”. All it does it makes corruption exclusive to mega rich.

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          14 days ago

          Rule of law just means rule of law. It doesn’t mean everyone gets same level of power or that it’s a fair system. It just minimizes uncertainty and human arbitraryness.

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            14 days ago

            Yes but CCP controls all trade while it’s much harder in free democracies. If CCP actually cares about something it is done immediately. Just take a look at trade war with the US, CCP is always 10 steps ahead because they can move so fast as they can’t be held accountable. That’s actually why there are so many autocracy proponents in the west now - “democracy is too slow, we’re losing”.

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                14 days ago

                They have high approval within the Chinese populace.

                Just like Trump has high approval among Fox viewers. Propaganda works.

                You and so many are so deluded by propaganda about China.

                And you’re not? Or do you just like the taste of jackboot?

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                14 days ago

                I’ve been to China many times too and it does not rock lmao. You’ve been eating propaganda and it shows. China is extremely oppressive and it’s still incredibly underdeveloped despite LED covered cities you see on tiktok. It’s still a matchmaker and status driven society from 20th century despite EV tech.

                Also freedom is not binary, the west is more free than China ever was. At least I can type “LGBT” to my chat app which you cannot do in China because CCP autocrats deem it “western propaganda”. None of this is a worthy sacrifice for faster decision making, I’d rather be slightly poorer but live in a healthier more free society.

                You’re a fool.

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                    14 days ago

                    So if the west indeed is more free, why are people getting arrested, beaten, scolded and losing jobs for supporting Palestinians

                    You are incapable of non-binary thinking? It’s more free.

                    There are people much smarter than you or me who try to quantify freedoms and you know what’s never doing well on these evaluations? China.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices

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            13 days ago

            people say its money that makes the world go round, but I think its more accurate to say trade makes the world go round.

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          13 days ago

          Lmao another american demanding china enforce unilateral sanctions on every country that trades with israel in order to cut them off. What do you think would happen? Europeans or americans would just sell them chinese shit. You haven’t thought about this for five seconds. They would need to cut themselves off from every single nation in the US bloc, defeating the entire purpose of their economic strategy

          What happened to the palestinian reporters al jazeera hired, by the way? Does your smushed walnut brain even have room for WHO RUNS AL JAZEERA 🤣 ?

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              12 days ago

              Do you really think you can talk down to me when you didn’t even bother to research Hamas’ stance on China? Are you a total fruit loop up there?

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                12 days ago

                Yes, if you think Hamas is interchangeable with the will of the Palestinian people, I think everyone should talk down to you.

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                  12 days ago

                  Oh, I had no idea your ignorant ass spoke for The Will of the Palestinian People. Are you sure you didn’t mix that up with Triumph of the Will? That’s interesting that you exclude the Palestinian armed resistance from the equation. Could this be informed by your liberal ideology’s history of supporting slavery and colonialism, chastizing the rebellious? Or do you think you came up with all this on your own, out of sheer moral superiority? Elaborate on Hamas’ position on China. Then contrast it with a few examples of The Will of the Palestinian People. I’m super curious about which ones you will pick! Thanks for participating in a good faith discussion with me.

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                  12 days ago

                  @the_fuckler@nord.pub yeah seconding that, it’s like there’s not even a real person on the other end. something darker, an entity that feeds only on pain and carnage and missile strikes. it’s like… it doesn’t even want another little treaty treat. it doesn’t even want to have the keys jangled in front of it. all it cares about is something called “the ongoing genocide” which it claims is related to generations of dead weighing like a nightmare on the brains of the living, which is like really creepy my dude. i’ve never heard it clamor for more superprofits once! but that would mean it can’t feel pain or remorse and it can’t be stopped unless it’s killed. can it be killed?

                  it just doesn’t make sense. the only genocide in history occurred during world war ii. criminal insanity, I presume

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                    12 days ago

                    Ohhh so this schizoid is one of your blorbos or something. Alright have fun inventing arguments to obliterate with facts and logic on the internet. I know this is going to somehow end a genocide somewhere if you deliver enough sick owns with Lennie SmallGPT here in a comment section

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        14 days ago

        CCP is not pro anything. It’s funny how autocracy founded on explicit design documents is one the biggest real politik actors out there.

        “Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.” - 1984

        CCP officially justifies these as “use any means for achieving goals” and this is the entire party - just power for power sake. There’s no actual ideology or consciousness - it’s literally “The Party” from 1984. However I don’t want to discredit Chinese people who actually do make meaningful change but it’s in spite of CCP not because of it.