In audio released Friday evening, senators and representatives from Ohio and Michigan revealed the “endgame” is to ban transgender care “for everyone.”

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    11 months ago

    Imagine being so insistent on targeting what amounts to 1% of the population.

    This shows how little they care about governing and how much they care about pushing their agenda.

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      Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

      -Francis Wilhoit

      They are exercising the out group to appease their base, nothing more. When they can’t target trans people anymore, they will move on to someone else.

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        Conservatism has no generally accepted definition, try googling it and see how many different answers come up. It’s not a political ideology, they can’t make up their own minds on what it is. It’s what you need it to be, then and there, it seems. Like if you had a party of self-serving lawyers run amok.

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      11 months ago

      This is a red herring lie to induce fear in homophobic followers. It is little different from the lies to that crime is rising, and that black/Latino/immigrant/Antifa crime is skyrocketing. Do not take my word for it. Look at actual crime statistics. Republicans are both being lied to, and spreading those same lies.

      The common thread is Republicans are dividing our country by promoting fear, distrust, and rage through their lies.

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      11 months ago

      That’s basically the game, ruin everything, and blame whichever minority it’s cool to hate this month for the ruin

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        11 months ago

        While they steal the money. OH SHIT LOOK OVER THERE GAY PEOPLE! Yoink. That’s the game, that’s the whole game.

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      That’s a rounding up by a pretty big margin. I am in one of the most trans friendly cities on the planet and we’re sitting at 0.4% of our population being trans.

      A lot of the rhetoric tends to fall on the “we shouldn’t have to change our behaviour because it’s such a small number!” but then we are also supposed to be this society wide menace that is “socially contagious”…

      We are prime scapegoats because you require extra empathy to understand the basics of what being trans is actually like compared to being cis and conservatives generally rate pretty low on empathy. They don’t care that they are condemning us to permanent misery, they can’t conceptualize that misery anyway.

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        I think one can be bigoted AF against gay and trans people and still defend their rights, I mean I think a lot of people are shit, doesn’t mean I want them imprisoned for it, I just don’t hang out with them. End of problem. Because you don’t go knocking at their doors asking them to be gay, right? These fuckers go door to door asking me to vote to end gay, and that is more annoying than I ever found a gay person. Fuck that, you be you and I be me, you stay there I stay here everyone happy, bigots and gays together, not divided.

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          This feels like it’s intended to be a positive message… I think? I have certainly never knocked on anybody’s door and asked them to be trans. I think a lot of people assume that we are trying to force people to use our pronouns and be nice to us… But if it’s on my own time why would I hang around people that call me things that make me feel like crap?

          It’s crazy though how upset people will get when you tell them you don’t like them very much. Bigots want to be “respected” but most of the time it just seems to mean “above judgement for behaviour.”

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            I hold some views that are very often branded “-phobic”, while you could not possibly find a more humanistically and egalitarian determined person who would literally (and I say this with a straight face) die for everybody’s right to enjoy the same freedoms and liberties as everybody else regardless of their personal choices, or their non-personal choices, or whoever they are or how they identify themselves.

            Simultaneously I think the LGBTQ movement is fucking bullshit dogmatic artificial manufactured outrage culture whose participants refuse to ever have anything but the most disingenuous, vile, and divisive arguments, on a basically fascist level. And don’t even get me started on trans whatever. I don’t mind any of these people as people. But their arguments suck ass, that is the single thing that pisses me off, they suffocate dialogue, and I will never have any of that. It is hypocritical to demand of me that I see others the way they see themselves. You may choose to see yourself however you want, and I retain my right to see you however I want as well. I don’t have to agree with you. You may see yourself as trans, and I will never disrespect you for it, but if I see it as hypothetically should be classified as a mental disorder then that is my right. Strictly based on scientific classification (i have a degree in psychology), the argument can be easily made. Why isn’t it? That is my contention.

            But I would die for their rights, without a second thought, to say what they want and be what they want and I would take up arms to defend anyone being oppressed for their sexuality, or religion, or color of skin. I went into the army based on those ideals, just so that in case it comes my way, I will be prepared to do the right thing and protect civilian rights.

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          It shocks me that people think there are so few gay and trans people. People are afraid to tell the truth because of these kind of politicians, you’re almost guaranteed to have a gay person in your family somewhere, whether they’re out or not

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            11 months ago

            To be fair, it may not be something that comes up during a normal conversation. It’s really none of our business what other people’s preference in the bedroom is, so it isn’t something most people pry about.

            I lived under the same roof (uni dormitory with 5 others) with a person for 3 years without knowing she was bisexual. It was only because she mentioned a female name in a subsentence about a tinder date that I found out about it. Unless they got a partner or you’re really close to them, it may just be something you never find out about, so you just assume they’re straight.

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      Yeah what even IS their stance on infrastructure? Just let it burn, or what? Because I’m very heavily invested in that, but all I get is that they are going to remove the gays or something. In twenty five years of truck driving I have never once run over a gay person, that is simply not an issue for me in my day to day dealings, I want to know what the fuck about the roads?