For those who are not clued into the intricacies of turkish (ethno-)nationalism, turanism is kind of like the odin-flavored racism in germany. They hate arabs so much they reject Islam (which is otherwise pretty core to turkish nationalism) because it’s an “arab religion”. It’s in a (not so coincidentally) similar vein to the odin-racists hating jews so much that they reject christianity due to it being a “semitic religion”. I could get into it more if needed but if you also browse the articles about the grey wolves (why are they called that 🤔) it should be fairly clear why that comm is a fascist op that is now being spread on lemmy

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    You answered a lot, and I’m thankful for that. But you didn’t answer the major one. You’re accusing this entire community of being a fascist op.

    Do you have literally any evidence of this type of behavior on that community?

    Because everything you said is, more or less, disagreement. That’s perfectly fine and acceptable, that’s the world. But you’re making a very large claim and have yet to provide any evidence that the community is what you’re claiming.

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      do you think your standard of evidence may be too high given the well studied subterfuge and plausible deniability fascists engage in? if enough of the user base is even sympathetic to these fascist currents then it’s cause for alarm

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        No. Anecdotal claims are not evidence. I also asked for any evidence of this community doing this specifically and literally none was ever provided. This is not due to my standard of evidence.

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            Civility weaponization is a common tactic of theirs

            Yet again, I am begging someone to link to a single thing instead of just claiming stuff.

            “Anecdotal” claims are good enough actually

            No, they’re not, actually. Not when you’re making an entire claim about an ethnic group and the community about them. It is, in fact, wildly xenophobic.

            You are not the person making this claim and are not aiding in their claims. I have no interest in continuing this conversation with you.

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              No, they’re not, actually

              actually yes they are. they are inremoved cases and they are in information wars like the one you’re fighting against the left right now. i’m not going to repeat ourselves

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                actually yes they are

                No. They’re not. This is a website where modlogs show removed comments and posts and where links/screenshots are capable. Merely saying “I saw this” is not evidence.

                Like the one you’re fighting against the left right now

                By asking for links or screenshots that are entirely capable of being attained?

                I’m not going to repeat ourselves

                Nothing said here has made sense or had any bearing on reality to begin with so go for it. I won’t be engaging in anything you have to say in future anyway. Blocked.