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the other day a tanky said a sentence constructed like that to me too, while literally arguing for me to join his authoritarian group
Infodump ahh meme
Sorry, can’t hear you over your failure to solve the entire problem. /s
Well, your negative comment made me spiral and transformed me into a speed bump on the road to progress. /s
Hiding behind vague hypotheticals because you voted for a union busting genocider with a staff full of Epstein patrons
I do things that make no difference globally because I don’t want to take part in the bad things.
I did not vote for the government that is ruling my country. My single vote did not make any difference, but it makes me feel better that I did not vote for this government.
I travel by train instead of a plane and I ride a bike instead of driving a car because I don’t want to be part of the club of high CO2 emission citizen.
Doing that does not matter globally, but I feel better about myself that way. I don’t tell other people what to do or to follow my example, but I think some people around me do notice and maybe it does get them thinking?
But I have no illusions, most people are busy enough and do what is most convenient every time. I am the only adult in my circle that does not own a car. But I feel powerless beyond my personal life to change anything.
I know it is not good enough, but I don’t know how to change other people.
I did try and sometimes I still do try, but to no effect besides annoying people. 🤷
I also kind of hate the rhetoric that a single vote doesn’t count. One of the local primaries this year came down to a difference of four votes.
I see way too much of this on the internet, here on Lemmy included. Thanks for posting this. I have this thought a lot but haven’t see this good of a way to put it before.
Its state sponsored propaganda using companies as proxies to bypass those pesky human rights laws and is vastly on the Republican side but you do have aipac dems and similar issues in other first world countries.
The rise of right wing extremist politicians and the world also going to shit is no coincidence.
They’ll also tell you things such as “don’t trust the government” while also being the party in control. It should be obvious to anyone who isn’t a cultist.
It should be obvious to anyone who isn’t a cultist.
I love the ‘no true scot’ part here.
Nice argument
Actually it’s a logical fallacy. As in your previous comment makes no sense at all so it doesn’t need to be argued against. Just dismissed as the drivel that it is.
So you’re a maga/republican cultist? Or just support them? Seems like you’re just deflecting from the original point I was making since you have no argument with substance🤷♂️
Cool emoji use
There’s a good chance that anyone making this argument doesn’t see it as a problem in the first place.
Yes, but this message gives them the chance to expand their view. The chance.
A monkey is gonna monk. No matter what you tellem.
That’s correct. Dismissal of the effort and disgust for the goal seem to go hand-in-hand.
Digital privacy? They’ve got you anyway AND I don’t care about privacy Environmentalism? Nothing is 100% green anyway AND I don’t care about the environment
Lots of examples like that.
They want to beat down both your goal and effort, because admitting even one of those being reasonable threatens their worldview.
Also there is crossover. Even if you managed 100% green, maybe some engineer who worked on it accidentally hit some Palestinian with their car, so now the entire project is just a secret genocide.
I generally agree but not across the board. Bandaid solutions, half-assing things, etc often leads to worse problems down the road than you had to begin with.
Anything worth doing is worth doing poorly. If you wait until you feel great and have all the time in the world to ever go to the gym you might work out 1-2 days a year. If you wake up late and are tired but commit to at least going out and walking down the street and back at lunch and you do the latter more often then you’ll be way ahead of the former situation. Maybe different strokes for different folks. Perfectionism ruins a lot of dreams and ambitions of people that would accomplish a whole lot more if they just stopped overthinking about it and learned to leave well enough alone. Just ask any former ‘gifted and talented’ student.
Yeah but at some point you have to try knowing you’ll fail so you can make a better attempt next time. A lot of people are just sitting at like zero level of organization and refuse to even start trying ever.
I think the OOP describes situation where you did your best to chip at the big problem, but it wasn’t enough.
Half-assing is when you could act more, but you didn’t.
The difference is effort and intention.
Thing is, a bad solution is more likely to be fixed into a good one than that good solution is to be done in the first place.
Gotta get that sunk cost working in your favor.
What a person should do is pretty contingent on their agency… If someone doesn’t have leverage to organise a systemic solution, they should absolutely apply a bandaid solution. Ideally while keeping half an eye on the possibility of a better solution in the long run, but yeah… Depends on context and capacity.
Me sitting here drinking soda with a soggy paper straw made from recycled toilet paper rolls:
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Because people are fucking stupid, i deal with this shit at work everyday nothing to do with global politics or whatever. Sometimes our vendors fuck things up for us, so therefore there’s no point in us getting more organized at work – literally how my supervisors think.
History has taught us that reform doesn’t work. It makes the current mode of production, something clearly unfair, slightly more palatable. This is not a solution. Revolution is the only method of improving society as a whole in meaningful ways.
I encourage anyone curious about these topics that are unsatisfied with the concept of reform to study Marxism.
History has shown that reform doesn’t work as a method for establishing socialism. I agree that establishing socialism would solve most of the world’s problems and we should spend the bulk of our political energy trying to make revolution, but that doesn’t mean that trying to fix one little issue within capitalism or taking an hour to vote for an imperfect candidate doesn’t have a meaningful impact.
Marxists should be simultaneously working to achieve revolution and improve life for their communities in the immediate term. The fun thing is that often the first directly leads to the second.
Reforms are quite easy to roll back.
Yeah, sure, which is why you don’t put most of your energy into reforms. But if it’s as simple as voting for a progressive vs. not voting, that’s a low effort thing you can do with a reasonable expectation of slightly improving the world.
I feel like this is type of thinking is a cope for people who don’t want to actually do anything but maintain what they think is the moral high ground.
They realize that if they admit that you doing something is positive, then they’ll be forced to confront why they aren’t doing it.
Focus on the outside paint so that the rotten foundation never gets fixed, yet expect the edifice to continue to stand.
I think this applies to doomers as well. Why would they argue that there’s nothing that can be done? Why pull anyone into your pit of dispair?
I’ll help pull you out if you first stop resisting.
I have been told this my whole life, how our silly little actions didn’t mean anything because they were too small or fringe or whatever.
The difference is I can look back across the decades and see a lot of people who I have helped, and who have helped me in turn, things have been directly made better as a result (well, at least some of the time). Meanwhile, their “more realistic” approach centred on voting has seen periods of glacial progress and rapid retreat, leaving them further back than ever before in my lifetime.
I have been told this my whole life, how our silly little actions didn’t mean anything because they were too small or fringe or whatever.
Same. Ive never believed it.
Be a helper.
Individual actions rarely cause big changes, but they help individuals all the time. Nothing wrong with that.
Things have gotten worse over my lifetime in small, almost imperceptible ways, which have all accumulated into the humungous shit sandwich we find ourselves consuming daily. The only way things will get better is in the same small, incremental way. Should we fight for more, faster, better? Absolutely! Should we let that get in the way of small wins? Hell no. It’s not sexy, it feels like trudging through mud every day and requires a level of faith to believe that the small contributions each of us make will matter in the long term. But it is the only way given the realities of the world we live in. Everything else is apathy or accelerationism.
