I dislike both sides so much that I skip those quest lines
It took me a long time to realize I missed the entire civil war plotline. I never sided with anyone. Did the main plot and some guild questlines. Skyrim hooked me less than prior TES games.
It’s so incredibly shallow, from a series already suffering from such.
I am a Skyrim virgin.
Be gentle with me.
No
You too get an arrow to the knee and you’ll like it
You don’t understand, I’m changing the stormcloaks from within
/uj it makes zero narrative sense to run off with the guy who was overseeing your execution, to the point that I don’t think it should be an option. It would be better if they made you go with the stormcloaks at first but then showed how flawed they were and gave you the opportunity to switch sides later
The main story of that game is fucking awful. I get they wanted to introduce some choice, and wanted that choice to somewhat kinda feel justified but JESUS did they do a shitty job.
Instead of giving us a messy political situation, where either party may have some legitimate claim to the land, they gave us Southern nationalists versus Northern racists who were here first and you’re meant to pick which one you like more.
Gee would I rather kill for the guys that literally don’t want me here, or kill for the guys that literally tried to kill me for being here? HARD FUCKING QUESTION.
I think I played through the main storyline once to completion, and every time before and after that I just skipped it once I got the rewards I wanted.
Hur durr no way best game ever made
The “natives” who are racist as fuck. I am still thinking about supporting empire because fuck Ulfric, but there is a long time before I come back to Skyrim yet again
The Nords’ early experience with elves was being the victims of genocide so it’s not like it comes from nowhere.
and it came to “Skyrim is for Nords”. which can be expected, yeah, but must not be tolerated
Its not racist to resist change from outsiders who happen to be another race.
it is racist to treat argonians like shit, for example
Or to openly talk about purging your new ethnonation.
Yeah I remember considering both sides and then just saying fuck it and stopping the quest entirely when it came time to choose.
thinking of the same, honestly. probably add some bloodbath on my way out too
The funny thing about the civil war is that it can be safely ignored. Apart from one point in the main quest, where you need to negotiate a ceasefire, but you can’t possibly fail.
I never understood the hype for Skyrim, the world and story is so stale and incohesive
It’s literally hype for the creation kit and mods people create for it and having fun with how buggy it is.
Also there’s no shortage of ‘locations’ and ‘creatures’ there…
Also there’s no shortage of ‘locations’
Most of which being a grey blob. There are like a couple interesting locations.
I really wanted to love Skyrim, the world is so cool, and it has so many cool story lines in there. It is just that they are so… shallow. Not connected at all. Not responsive or immersive in any way.
They spent all their time on building thousands of caves where the radiant / fetch quests can go.
I spent all my time in those caves. Thanks Skyrim
I fight for the one true cause. Shouting goats off the mountain.
Fus-Ro-Baaah
Godamnit
Bruh the Nords ain’t the natives.
Who is downvoting this? The forsworn are native.
I mean it’s getting a bit loose with the term native. The Nords have been there a long fucking time.
Humans on Earth are only native to Africa, but unique cultures have evolved elsewhere
HISSSS… THE LAND BELONGS TO THE LAND-FISH
They’re not either. The dwemer and falmer are the natives.
Ya, the Nords are from Sweden
Skyrim belongs to the Falmer!
Is there actually a way to join the Falmer? Not talking about mods, but also, a mod would work.
I’d play a prequel set in the dwemer / falmer-before-eyeless times. That’d be pretty tight.
Hear, ye! Hear, ye, Falmer! Lend supernicepojo your ears!
Yep the strormcloaks are an extremely flawed anti-colonial movement. Still worth supporting.
strormcloaks are an extremely flawed anti-colonial movement
Lmao they’re literally a colour revolution propped up by the Altmeri Dominion and want to continue Skyrim’s occupation of the Reach.
Actually, this part of the Skyrim world is the one that I hate the least. Sounds like every proxy conflict ever. The parallels to many real-world conflicts from Vietnam to Ukraine are obvious.
And it is a nice dilemma: do you support the clearly colonial empire, which however seems to be half ok at running things, when they are not on an oppressive execution spree? Or support the self-determination of the people, who are propped up by a rival empire that is even worse, and half of them are horribly racist? It is pretty well balanced and not quite as black and white as the usual video game lore, it has layers, and makes you think. I like it.
Does it really surprise anyone that a story by Emil Pagliarulo has poorly written factions?
I am surprised that anyone would consider the Oblivion Dark Brotherhood faction and plot to be poorly written. It was easily the best story of the base game.
