This is about the most recent version of LibreOffice on Windows 10. I can’t speak for other versions.

My daughter worked hard on her social studies essay. I type things in for her because she’s a really bad typist, but she tells me what to write… but I didn’t remember to manually save her social studies essay yesterday, and for some reason the ThinkPad rebooted, LibreOffice crashed and we lost the whole thing… because autosave was not automatically on when I installed it.

No, recovery didn’t work. We just got a blank file.

I rewrote it for her based on the information we had and what I remembered and tried to make it sound like what a 13-year-old would write because it was basically my fault and she did do the work. I did have her sit with me as I wrote it in case she didn’t like something I wrote, but it was sort of cheating. I’m okay with that cheating since I know she worked hard on it.

First, though, I went into the settings and turned on autosave.

I like LibreOffice, but why the hell is that not on automatically? Honestly, I don’t really understand why someone wouldn’t want their documents autosaved, but I’m pretty sure most people would want that.

This isn’t fucking 1993. I shouldn’t have to remember to save a document anymore and it shouldn’t be lost forever because of it.

Like I said, I like LibreOffice. I don’t really want to trust documents to Microsoft or Google. But this was really annoying.

  • Moonrise2473@feddit.itEnglish
    209·
    9 months ago

    At work i use a $800 proprietary shit software that has a 70% chance of crashing when printing (so it crashes when job is done)

    So I got used to Ctrl+S every. Single. Sentence.

    Windows 10 home loves to automatically reboot to install the fucking updates IMMEDIATELY. RIGHT. NOW. And Microsoft pushed some big update just a few days ago. When LibreOffice crashes usually there’s a recovery feature. It’s windows. Windows wanted to install the fucking updates and it told LibreOffice to gracefully close RIGHT NOW, and NO, THE USER DOESN’T WANT TO SAVE, the user wants to get updates immediately ASAP

    Btw automatically saving is a generally undesirable feature as it could reduce the lifetime of ssds, slowdown the system if the file Is big or stored on slow media like network.

    • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
      134·
      9 months ago

      Windows 10 home loves to automatically reboot to install the fucking updates IMMEDIATELY. RIGHT. NOW

      No it doesn’t. Maybe it can happen if you neglect to reboot your pc in ages but normally it never ever happens.

      It hasn’t happened to me ever and won’t because I shutdown the computer at night.

      • Inky@lemmy.caEnglish
        62·
        9 months ago

        So the solution to forced rebooting is to have to suffer through the ridiculous boot times for windows every day?

        • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
          61·
          9 months ago

          Sure. Linux boots faster. But boot time on Windows is still measured in seconds.

          Just let Windows update occasionally.

          Timeline of Windows users:

          Users: Fuck you Microsoft why do I get viruses*?
          MS: Okay we will give you security updates.
          Users: No, I don’t want to update or ever reboot, you idiot.
          MS: Okay, you do you.
          Users: Why do I still get viruses?
          MS: How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat?
          Users: Just fix it.
          MS: Fine.
          Users: Why is my computer rebooting?

          *Virus in this context refers to any security problems.

        • elvith@feddit.deEnglish
          62·
          9 months ago

          Patchday is once a month. No need to reboot every day. Also, what “ridiculous boot time”? What hardware do you have?

      • ferret@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        38·
        9 months ago

        You have clearly never used windows in a corporate or education environment. They are nothing but cruel with the update policies

        • JStenoien@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          91·
          9 months ago

          That’s your IT department policy they’ve set, not Windows. Source: am IT and was part of implementing that type of policy at my work because users never fucking apply updates.

    • JaxNakamura@programming.devEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      Btw automatically saving is a generally undesirable feature as it could reduce the lifetime of ssds, slowdown the system if the file Is big or stored on slow media like network.

      I don’t know what kind of files you write regularly, but even the smallest and cheapest PCIe 3.0 NVMe drive can store data at 600 megabytes per second or more. That’s plenty fast enough for my office documents at least. And you can rewrite the entire contents of the drive a hundred times or more before it fails. So I wouldn’t lose any sleep over having autosave on.

      • intensely_human@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Is this SSD failure after 100 rewrites localized? Or is it just the sum total of data saved to it that causes this? Because if it’s localized, autosave is gonna use up your 100 safe writes in the first hour.