Alabama’s supreme court ruling that frozen embryos are ‘children’ is a chilling example of the Republican party’s extremism

In a case centering on wrongful-death claims for frozen embryos that were accidentally destroyed at a fertility clinic, the Alabama supreme court ruled last Friday that frozen embryos are “children” under state law.

As a result, several Alabama in-vitro fertilization (IVF) clinics are ceasing services, afraid to store or destroy any embryos.

The underlying issue is whether government can interfere in the most intimate aspects of people’s lives – not only barring people from obtaining IVF services but also forbidding them from entering into gay marriage, utilizing contraception, having out-of-wedlock births, ending their pregnancies, changing their genders, checking out whatever books they want from the library, and worshipping God in whatever way they wish (or not worshipping at all).

All these private freedoms are under increasing assault from Republican legislators and judges who want to impose their own morality on everyone else. Republicans are increasingly at war with America’s basic separation of church and state.

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    Can someone please explain how this is any different from a county imposing Sharia law‽ Pretty sure the right is vehemently against that occuring. Why are their morals different, in the end it’s trying to control through religion.

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      It’s exactly the same. But because it’s their god it’s somehow different, but it’s not.

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          From my understanding of the various religions and offshoots, yes, it is in theory the same God. They also feature the same saints and holy figures across the 3 big ones though in the Quran Jesus is a saint or similar but not our savior or the son of God and God in the same package, etc.

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            I don’t mean some scientific objective same God.

            They are both based off Abrahamic origins. They literally believe in the same God. They just disagree in a lot of interpretations and how to respect and worship him.

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            There is, actually. You see, since men wrote all the books, thankfully they’ve made it clear in the Quran that it’s a sequel, same-universe cannon.

            Ironically, since we know from the literature, we do literally have a way to know

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            Considering the 3 big ones feature the same cast of saints and holy figures, I’d say it’s more likely than not that it is the same God.

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            We know it’s the same god the same way we know it’s the same Emperor Palpaptine in Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi, and The Rise of Skywalker.

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      Well you see, Sharia Law is imposed by brown people, so God hates it. Jesus was white, American, and a registered Republican, so God loves the brand of extremist Christian theocracy the GOP will bring upon us.

      /s

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    When was the last time people were in doubt about that? Conservatives have been trying to pass laws that affect everyone based on their confused religious moralism for decades. Things like “blue laws” (banning sales of alcohol on Sunday) are connected to Christians trying to impose their religious ideas on people. Or the idea that someone’s testimony or oath can’t be believed if not sworn on a bible.

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      Did you ever see that one politician who swore up and down that America is a Christian nation because you swear into office on the Bible? Complete deer in headlights look when the interviewer explained that the Bible was an option, not a requirement.

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    The people that want a theocracy want it based on their religion and their interpretation of that religion. This way they can present what they want as what god wants and that gives them complete control over you since you have to obey god.

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    There was a speaker at CPAC who just said that they’re trying to make the US a Christian nation by force, even if it means abandoning democracy.

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    In a concurring opinion in last week’s Alabama supreme court decision, Alabama’s chief justice, Tom Parker, invoked the prophet Jeremiah, Genesis and the writings of 16th- and 17th-century theologians. “Human life cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God,” he wrote. “Even before birth, all human beings have the image of God, and their lives cannot be destroyed without effacing his glory.”

    Before joining the court, Parker was a close aide and ally of Roy Moore, the former chief justice of the Alabama supreme court who was twice removed from the job – first for dismissing a federal court order to remove an enormous granite monument of the Ten Commandments he had installed in the state judicial building, and then for ordering state judges to defy the US supreme court’s decision affirming gay marriage.

    Excuse me wtf

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        Dogmatic ideology holding contradictory positions is a feature, not a bug. Break down whatever instincts for logic might exist, and people will believe anything.

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    Alabama’s supreme court ruling that frozen embryos are ‘children’ is a chilling example of the Republican party’s extremism

    frozen embryos

    chilling example

    Nice.

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    American Taliban, or a fascist theocracy. They believe that inequality based on some mythological identity is not just acceptable but morally correct.

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    They’re using religion as their path to dictatorship. Really only Catholics were in open opposition to abortion until conservatives made it an evangelical talking point. They found a way to control women and then found the audience to market it to. Now they caught that car and have to find another target for their pack of dogs.

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      And let them keep enslaving innocent people?

      Should’ve done something with the south alright, but it’s not letting them go.

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        When Sherman got to the ocean we should have just pointed him in another direction and let him bounce around the South for a while. Like one big Confederate-cleansing Roomba.

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          Fun fact, after the famous March to the Sea, Sherman headed back north, cutting an equally destructive path through South Carolina.

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        Shouldn’t have let the confederate leadership go on living after the war. Arguments can be made for average soldiers since many were drafted against their wills and/or propagandized into their beliefs, but an example needed to be made of the leaders and it wasn’t.

        “Oh, you want to break away from the country in order to keep slavery going? Well please stand in front of that brick wall over there. Runner-up trophies will be distributed imminently and in an orderly fashion. Here’s your blindfold because we’d like it to be a surprise. Would you like a cigarette while you wait?”

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          Now now let’s be nice. You might get banned for violence for saying maybe we should punch Nazis even though they constantly ask for the literal death of others!