NoneOfUrBusiness

I see. That makes sense.

Not will be. Is. The blowback from last time was, among other things, Hezbollah.

I mean Iran doesn’t have nuclear weapons but they do have a nuclear program and it’s very easy to go from there to nukes. Correct me if I’m wrong but AFAIK the principle behind nukes is pretty simple and it’s modern geopolitics that makes them hard to get.

Israel has amassed such an arsenal, it can continue this shit on it’s own for a good while. An arms embargo would still be appropriate though

No way. First they can’t use some of those weapons without US approval. They’re made that way. Second, if they were running a more normal terror campaign (like shock and awe for example) that’d be correct, but they’re not. They’re carpet bombing Gaza and Lebanon using “precision” airstrikes. It’s an incredibly wasteful method of genocide that only has the advantage of being able to say “but we’re targeting terrorists”. No way they can keep up this nonsense without unlimited US weapons. Third, Israel would be eaten alive by its neighbors without US diplomatic (or “diplomatic”) support. Do you understand how much support any middle eastern leader would get by sayint “We’ll go fight Israel to save our Palestinian brothers”? The only reason it’s not happening and even Iran is leaving the job to its militias is because of the US carrot and stick.

Isn’t it only two fronts? I don’t think there’s much fighting going on in the West Bank, only one-sided slaughter.

I mean yes these are all Palestinian resistance leaders.

Hamas doesn’t really count in this conversation, I think. Their scale is too small.

I mean that’s kind of their problem then.

They have - for now - eliminated Hamas as a threat.

How so? Aren’t Israelis still evacuating the border?

If they have the guts to occupy the Gaza strip for the next 50 years - and do this well they can change the attitude of the people there.

My man if occupying Gaza helped there wouldn’t be a Hamas to begin with. Hamas was created in occupied Gaza, remember?

The threats to Israel come from non state actors within them.

Are there even serious threats to Israel in Syria?

Why is your idea of Israeli-Arab relations stuck in the 70s?

They’re a paramilitary organization with a small country’s worth of military power (no air force though). Not trying to defend Israel, or course, but they are an Israeli enemy next to their borders.

I meant Hezbollah, not Lebanon.

I mean Netanyahu keeps crying about people wanting to destroy Israel but… uh… Israel is bordered by two allies and one enemy.

Uh… What? Yes they kept fleeing to Muslim lands at least learn the history of the people whose Apartheid you’re rooting for (not that Israel represents Jews as a whole I know that’s not the case). A large fraction of Egyptian Jews, for example, were originally from Spain and were expelled due to the Reconquista, and the first two Aliyahs were European Jews escaping from pogroms to the more tolerant Ottoman empire. Also modern Muslim anti-semitism was, in fact, imported from Europe in the 19th century and strongly intensified due to the conflict with Zionists. Again, learn the history of the people whose Apartheid you’re rooting for and the people whose oppression you’re rooting for before you make ignorant statements again.

The original plans where also a lot smaller and entitled Palestinians to a lot of land and their own state.

A lot smaller, but with a lot of the better land and half the Palestinian population. Would you agree to half the people of your country being ruled by an explicitly hostile, foreign people?

Spouting revisionist nonsense about how equal the Jews where treated all over the world also does not help the situation either.

I mean in many places they were. Raging antisemitism was mostly a European problem. That’s why they kept fleeing to Muslim lands.

Uh… What? Israel is, and has always been from the planning phase, a Jewish-dominated settler colony. This is literally why they caused the Nakba. How does that sound like a multiethnic democracy?

So question: How do you even get caught? Do they like have to catch you railing another guy or what?

Nothing??? Just put them and Palestinians in the same place and make them create the equal multiethnic democracy Israel said it would but didn’t become.