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Cake day: June 15th, 2023

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  • Capitalism has only been around since the 1800s, and humans have been hating and killing people different from them for thousands of years.

    I’m a socialist is well, but I don’t like how many people see socialism as a silver bullet for everything. I think it’s dangerous.

    If we take socialism just to mean something like “workers are the ones who own the means of production; they take part in decision making and share the profits”, that doesn’t mean everything else will be solved. Some people will still be bigoted. Those (worker owned) companies will still have ads because they’ll still want to make money*. A lot might still give no fucks about the environment and keep polluting. And if it’s still a hierarchical system, there’s no reason those in power wouldn’t try to abuse that system, try to profit from it, oppress people, start wars, etc.

    • Obviously the ads aren’t as bad as the rest, that feels a little out of place. I just mentioned it because I’ve had and seen conversation where people seem to think that marketing and advertising would go away without capitalism.






  • The Fediverse experience starts with an unanswerable question: what server do you want to be on?

    This is such a cop out and makes no sense. A “server” is basically just a website. The only reason we call them servers/instances is because they are are running the same software in the background and can communicate with each other - that’s it. So we put them all under common flags such as “Mastodon” for those who use the Mastodon “template”, and “Fediverse” for all the “templates” that can communicate with each other.

    This is literally just a problem with marketing and communication, people hear “instances”/“servers” and they shit themselves because they can’t be bothered to do a bit of research. In reality they are just different websites that can communicate with each other. You have the “shakedown.social” website, the “dads.cool” website, the “bookwyrm.social” website, and plenty of others; they are all Twitter clones (Mastodon) and they all allow you to see the content posted on the others.


  • But we did leave

    Who is we?

    From what I can find Twitter has around 500 million users monthly, meanwhile Bluesky has less than 30 million total users… I’ve seen public figures who are outspoken against Trump and Musk, some who even called them Nazis, still using twitter but not Bluesky or Mastodon. And I even see people on Lemmy post screenshots from Twiiter posts.

    So, clearly, the vast majority of people have not left, and those who did are just going for another centralized platform that is likely to suffer from the same problems as Twitter in the future. And all this about a decade too late, as another user said.




  • The British example goes straight against what you are saying, because at the time of both world wars, and especially the first, the British had plenty of war experience. And not just the British, but every empire at the time had plenty of war experience, but the war did not go at all like most were expecting it to. For a modern example of that with the US, just look at the war in Vietnam and in Iraq.

    But more importantly than all of this, you are working under the assumption that the US is being led by extremely qualified people, and that every soldier would fall in line; however not only has the current US government been firing extremely qualified top officials because of “DEI”, but I doubt everyone in the military would happily invade a NATO member - with whom they’ve been allied and trained side by side for years - without even blinking an eye. Military experience does nothing to prevent a civil war, because one thing has nothing to do with the other. The military is made up of people too, who like I said before are a lot more connected with the rest of the world than they used to be.

    Finally, even if it’s true that the US would somehow be immune to a civil war, that would still not mean the majority of countries would not fall into a civil war. To give just one example, Germany has a very big nazi far-right party that has been directly supported by Musk and Vance; if Germany went to war with the US, those people might take up arms against their own country.


  • But many countries have been running simulations for the scenarios since before electricity.

    Right, I was gonna make that point, but it seems you made it for me. Because despite doing that, most wars in recent history, especially the world wars, did not go at all as predicted. Both world wars played out very different from previous wars and from what was to be expected. A standout example is British strategy for both world wars: in the first they made shitty trenches because they didn’t realize they’d be used so much; in the second they made much better and more comfortable trenches because they had learned from the first war, and they turned out to be mostly useless because the trenches used were no longer static.

    Spain even had a civil war as a prelude to the second world war, then during WW2 you even had Vichy France and the French Resistance fighting each other, and recently we had the Syrian civil war. Right now, it seems the USA might be on the brink of civil war as well. Not sure what makes you so sure WW3 wouldn’t devolve into several civil wars when people are so much more connected with people from other countries nowadays.


  • Europe’s, who look down on rampant American capitalism and Trump?

    Unfortunately, there are still plenty of fascist Europeans. Anecdotally, my mom recently told me her friend likes Trump, and that same person votes for our own far-right party whose leader has essentially been trying to emulate Trump.

    One of my biggest fears that I think not enough people have though about, is that - due to how much more connect the world is with the internet - WW3 would devolve into a bunch of civil wars. WW2 was extremely different from WW1 and already had its far share of in fighting in some countries, this time it could be worse and happen in basically every country involved.


  • Those guys are haters.

    Do you not know what tankies are? Do you not know what nazis are? Are they just “haters” to you? I hope you’re a teenager, because no fucking adult should be saying this shit.

    You’re the one calling for hate and insulting me my guy.

    I’m the one calling for hate? Again, I’m assuming you don’t know what nazis and tankies are; and as for insulting you, you literally just told me I’m “no better than” nazis and tankies after I made a pretty civil reply to you - not to mention well before I showed up to this post you were the one telling a tankie “Wtf are you saying, bot?”

    Did you forget that? Are you perhaps a bot?

    Once again, go fuck yourself. I’m not gonna waste more time with you.


  • What do you mean by two comments deep? That was my first reply to you, if that’s what you mean. And I wasn’t telling you to hate anyone, I was adding some perspective to a conversation; my comment literally starts with “fair enough”, meaning “I’m fine with your stance”.

    How are you better? Lmao

    Than tankies and nazis? The people I’m calling out? Tankies and nazis? You’re asking how am I better than them for calling them out and saying “if you use their platforms you are being complicit”? I’m not better than those guys? Yeah, ok champ, go fuck yourself.