Prohibition? We still have drug prohibition. Woman’s suffrage? It’s something, but women’s votes still are as useless as everyone else’s, especially if you refuse to vote for anything to actually change (and they still have a wage gap). 75-day school year - what? Jim Crow? Improvements but black communities institutionalized, ghettoized, gunned down by cops, and still a wage gap. See prohibition.

Plus, now our government is totalitarian, eating a third of GDP, massive surveillance state, largest military on earth, quarter of the prisoner’s on Earth, constantly trying to censor the internet, economy is insanely unequal and getting worse, inflation over the long term getting worse and wages not keeping up with them, housing prices skyrocketing, and currently openly engaged in a genocide despite nation-wide protests. Need me to keep going?

Wow, sorry, didn’t realize this was still going.

What is my feasible solution? General strike and/or total shift to third party to implement direct democracy. 100 million people can go out and waste their vote on a petty tyrant like Biden or Trump, or 100 million people can actually start making real changes. You’re all in a prison of your own making.

Good luck with your attempts at incremental change, that’ve been going on for a century while our society has completely devolved into fascism, a bipartisan police state and a genocidal global empire. You are clearly the brilliant visionary we need to guide us into the uncharted future.

Including Montana.

“Our democracy” has been dead for a century. You guys are like rats running around a maze with your moronic “lesser of two evils” between two parties all controlled by the same interests.

Both parties openly backing and arming the genocide in Palestine, the most well-documented genocide in world history, despite overwhelming public opposition, is not a binary system, it’s a one-party system. We are living in dystopia already, the Democrats shave 3% off of whatever the fascist Republican platform is and say “we’re the best option.” Stop being a fool and see the system for what it is.

Yes, the Wikipedia article you’re quoting goes on to state:

On 5 June 1967, as the UNEF was in the process of leaving the zone, Israel launched a series of preemptive airstrikes against Egyptian airfields and other facilities, launching its war effort.[24] Egyptian forces were caught by surprise, and nearly all of Egypt’s military aerial assets were destroyed, giving Israel air supremacy.

You can shut up now tbph. Not responding further.

What’s the specific claim you’re making? Israel did in fact start that war, with a “preemptive” air raid meant to cripple Egypt’s air force. And the political history of the region doesn’t abrogate the right of its long-established inhabitants to the land - this is an Israeli propaganda talking point.

They did, that’s why it’s illegal now.

It’s not unlawful to take land during a war. It’s just shitty, in most instances.

It is illegal to take land during a war. Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation

Hamas is running a government too, so I guess they’re not either. Problem solved everyone, Israel can go home now.

This is annoying.

How many beheadings have there been, versus the number of Muslim people who have ever lived?

“Normal” and not a military empire would be a start.

I’m assuming you’re all talking about the Uyghur genocide. I wouldn’t downplay it for a second, but the simple reality is that they’re not being exterminated through a rapid act of carpet bombing by high-powered airstrikes, the degree and brutality of the killing going on in Gaza right now is unlike anything I’ve seen in my entire life. To cleave to the point here, which is, “do other ongoing genocides exceed this one in terms of killing of civilians”.

It may be the case that the long-term death toll is higher, considering how many years it’s been happening, though downplaying what’s happening in Gaza on that basis, I mean, let’s not wait for that comparison to flip.

Looks like that “live updates” link broke - here’s a persistent link https://turkiye.un.org/en/253313-gaza-unprecedented-and-unparalleled-civilian-death-toll-guterres

You referencing that MEMRI video? If so, do some serious source checking on it.

Well past time for one of those historical shifts to a third party.

We’re seeking something like 20-25k dead in the last 6 weeks - 1/57th of the entire population killed or wounded. What are you thinking of that exceeds that?

Any real actions from the UN have to come from the UN Security Council, which is paralyzed by the veto power of its permanent members (US, UK, Russia, France, China).