Same rhetoric, policies, party, etc.

Would he even make it pass “grab em by the p****” in 2016?

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    No, because his popularity with the cult of fools is primarily based on two things: 1. talking at a third grade level and 2. fear mongering about black and brown people.

    I suppose you could add “appearing to be rich and successful” and some other ingredients in there. But I think the 2 mentioned are his biggest power sources by far.

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    This story is from when Trump was putting up Trump Tower. The biggest scandal that he used illegal immigrants to demolish the original building. He ended up havign to pay them over $1 million for the abuses.

    The part of the story that made him anathema to the Manhattan elites was that he destroyed the building after promising to preserve it. It was considered one of the loveliest buildings in the city.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellisicky/2020/10/03/how-donald-trump-took-down-bonwit-teller-a-fifth-avenue-landmark/

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      Trump initially avoided any comment about the Bonwit Teller artwork. But John Baron, a spokesperson with the Trump Organization, contacted the New York Daily News to discuss the situation. Baron informed the Daily News that “the merit of the stones was not great enough to justify the effort to save them.” Baron stated that the removal process could have set back Trump Tower’s construction timeline by two weeks. Baron also told the New York Times that he had no idea what happened to the ornate grillwork.
      Long after Baron’s initial contact, the New York Daily News learned that John Baron was actually Donald Trump, in disguise.

      WTF?

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        You’re just finding out about John Barron at this late date?

        On the other hand, keeping track of all of Trump’s lies and scandals is like trying to read Lord of the Rings while watching Avengers Endgame and listening to an audio book of Game of Thrones at the same time.

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          I’m not from the US and while, thanks to the internet, I probably know more about Trump’s scandals and crimes than is necessary or reasonable for anyone only indirectly affected by his actions, I’m sure I’ve only scratched the surface. Especially since, as you said, you really have to put in an effort to keep track of all of them.

          So I’m just observing from afar and constantly amazed by every new detail I stumble upon.

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            I’m a life long New Yorker who has seen all of his scandals in the local media [he’s been trying to get his name in the papers since the 1980s] Back in the 1990s there was a local satire magazine called Spy. They ridiculed the pompous and Trump was a favorite target. They once wnated to find the cheapest person in the City.

            They sent a few dozen rich folks checks for less than $2.00. Personal checks to home addresses. Most threw the checks away, but a few cashed them. The magazine kept sending checks in smaller and smaller amounts.

            In the end, only Trump and an arms dealer cashed the last check. 13 cents. $0.13. Not enough to make a phone call.

            I’ve literally never heard one good story about him.

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    Would you have? No disrespect intended, it’s a genuine question I earnestly implore each of us to answer to ourselves at the very least.

    For variety, swap out “black” with any marginalized community of your choice: female, non-binary, undocumented alien, neurodivergent, actual human, etc.

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    In a pre Trump world, probably not.

    Today? I imagine a lot of republicans would love a black man saying everything Trump says to “trigger the libs”.

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    if DT was anyone else he would have been held with no bail for having 90+ pending felonies and having been convicted of 32 already. The fact that his passport has not been restricted is clear evidence that being “rich & famous” gets you different treatment.

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      There was a thing he said back in the early 2000s, and it was leaked around the 2016 election. He was talking about women, and said something to the effect of “When you’re rich, and famous, they let you grab em by their pussy”.

      People at the time were angry that his views were that, but, honestly, that’s the life he’s lived. That’s the life he knows as reality. WE see it as disgusting, because he’s saying that women can be treated as sex objects, and that he’s ok with that. He see’s it as just the world we live in, because women approach him and treat THEMSELVES as sex objects. Those are the women that approach him, so that’s the experience he has with women. Women who only want him for his money.

      And now we see it even applies to the courts. Maybe we should still be mad at him for having those views, but also understand why he has those views, and start holding society accountable. Maybe we should be angry at parents who don’t teach their daughters to have more self respect than to find some rich guy to bang for money.

      Because at the end of the day, all trump is saying is “I get treated differently, because I’m rich.”

      And as angering as that is to hear…he’s not wrong. He’s just an asshole.

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        He see’s it as just the world we live in, because women approach him and treat THEMSELVES as sex objects. Those are the women that approach him, so that’s the experience he has with women. Women who only want him for his money.

        …and what world are you living in that these women are approaching him at all? He had to get a financial arrangement to buy a marriage with Melania, a person who won’t fucking touch him, and slaps away his hand when he tries to touch her. He had to pay a shitload of money to have a chance with Stormy Daniels, same with Karen McDougal, and he paid even more money to try to cover up that he did.

        Trump is a rapist and the way he treats women is the way of a rapist. You’re fucking deluding yourself if you think lots of attractive women have approached Donald Trump. Nearly every woman he has ever touched he has paid for the pleasure of doing so. Even when he has “grabbed women by the pussy” he pays through lawsuits. He just thinks that’s the cost of being a gross rapist.

        Literally the only woman I can think of off the top of my head who we have proof who has moved on Trump is Laura fucking Loomer who isn’t exactly a beautiful woman, my dude.

        I can’t believe a bogus post arguing that Trump is more of a ladies man than a rapist has so many upvotes.

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          My post never said anything close to him being a ladies man. My post is that trump views women as transactional property, and that sex is something he gets for free because he’s rich.

          How did you read my post and think I was describing a ladies man??? His views are gross and a result of his experiences.

          But your perspective just confuses me how you got 2 + 2 = potato.

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        because women approach him and treat THEMSELVES as sex objects

        That’s some A+ victim blaming right there. E. Jean Carroll didn’t do shit

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        So by this logic if some 12yo girl is flirting it up big time with a grown ass man and they fuck. Instead of being mad at the man for doing this, we should blame the little 12yo girl and her parents for not raising her better(?) Should we instead sympathize with the man cus “Oh that poor guy, all he’s ever known is having sex with children! Lets not blame him! Thats just his life and how he lives!”

        It’s called having a set of functioning fucking Morals. I’m not going to jump off of a cliff- or better yet, get into a tin can to go and see the titanic just because “oh this is just what I’m exposed to, this is normal for me, other rich men do it so this is my life now.” He is a grown ass man in his 70’s now. He knows that adultery is wrong; don’t blame the woman for her already shitty lifestyle. You think those woman wanna fuck Trump and his soggy ass?? Woman don’t typically thrust themselves at old men with cash unless they are severely fuck outta luck and have a terrible life as is… or they just have a fetish for em. Prostitution is their JOB. And 9/10 they’re likely fucking slaves to a pimp or are being trafficked. Why tf do you think Trump was friends with Epstein??!

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        Everywhere I come across you, you’re providing yet another example of your username being spot-fucking-on.

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    I was gonna reply that Hermain Cain was probably the “Black Donald Trump”, but I looked it up and Cain actually had success in his business ventures. He also was only married once.

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    Are you kidding? One of the big attractions of Trump is to prove the shittiest white man can beat a qualified black woman.

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      You think the white supermacists would vote Kamala / Hillary / Biden rather than Kanye?

      Another one of Trump’s core demographics is the religious christians too, despite Trump not having a religious bone in his body.