• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    After all, if she didn’t sow discord by pointlessly undermining the president while an essentially powerless Vice President

    She had no problem disagreeing with him when he called Republican voters garbage. She had no problem differing from him when she promised to put a Republican in her cabinet.

    It’s funny how she can move to his right as much as she wants, but never to his left.

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      Biden calling Trump voters garbage was a gaffe. His own office walked it back. It’s way easier to depart from the president on a throwaway line than on a year-long policy that an all-too-large and ignorant chunk of the population still supports.

      I’m not satisfied with her public position on Gaza so far, either. But, since the notion that Trump will make anything better is ridiculous, the only plausible course is to get her in office and then pressure the shit out of her.

      And in case anyone’s thinking it, the idea that Jill Stein successfully spoiling into a Trump victory somehow means he’ll take her foreign policy advice is magical thinking.

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        I forgot that I need to append “I already voted for Harris” to anything that isn’t fawning worship, or Democrats’ sanctimonious lecture reflex kicks in.

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          23 hours ago

          Problem is it’s not believable you voted for Harris after doing nothing but speaking out against her for months now. Guessing you voted for trump just based on your words on lemmy

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            This is exactly why this discussion is insufferable. You have literally been told how this person voted but you are so convinced by your own bullshit (ie that anyone mad about US support for genocide must, for some god damn reason, support Trump) that you don’t even believe it.

            I cannot wait for the 6th so that we can have this conversation without it getting sidetracked by overly loyal democrats condescendingly explaining how first past the post works as if we don’t know already.

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                18 hours ago

                It’s funny how you can flat out accuse someone of lying about their vote because you simply don’t believe them and that is totally fine, but when I pointed out the issues with doing that this is “uncivil” and must be removed.

                This person told you how they voted. The only reason you don’t believe them is because you have been lied to and you have bought into the lies. People mad about the current line on Gaza are generally not voting Trump, they are just mad at Biden and Harris. Perhaps if you have a zero sum mindset this is difficult to understand but it really is very simple.

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                  17 hours ago

                  Oh it was removed. Good. It had a horrible tone so I skipped it. This one too. It’s notable I tagged you months ago as an anti-biden zealot because of your attacks against anyone who isn’t trump

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                    Hmm tagging anybody who doesn’t agree with you as a “zealot” makes you seem like the zealot.

                    I hate Trump. Take a look through my comments.

                    It had a horrible tone so I skipped it.

                    Sorry for the tone. But you are accusing somebody of lying because you insist on painting others as ridiculous caricatures instead of engaging with them in good faith and it pisses me off. It doesn’t matter what tone you take doing this, you are the problem.

                    I am absolutely astounded that I can be falsely called an “anti Biden zealot” and this is not “uncivil” but my initial comment was.