Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 11 months agoAmericans don't want to fight for their country anymorewww.newsweek.comexternal-linkmessage-square189fedilinkarrow-up1295arrow-down147
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minus-squareFlying Squid@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down12·11 months agoIs it good to beat the shit out of the school bully after he picks a fight with you so he learns to stop picking fights with people? I would say so.
minus-squarediprount_tomato@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up12arrow-down5·11 months agoNot if you’re quite similar to that bully
minus-squareFlying Squid@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up5arrow-down13·11 months agoThere’s a difference between being a good country and being a global force for good. In helping to defeat the Nazis, the U.S. was a global force for good regardless of what else they did, had done or will do. The same with Stalinist Russia.
minus-squareFlying Squid@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up4arrow-down3·11 months agoBad countries can’t do good things?
minus-squarediprount_tomato@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3arrow-down2·11 months agoIf they did they’d be good countries
minus-squareFlying Squid@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up4arrow-down2·11 months agoSo it was bad to defeat the Nazis and the Confederates?
minus-squarediprount_tomato@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down1·11 months agoVultures can kill each other
minus-squareFlying Squid@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·11 months agoVultures are good. They eat carrion that would otherwise rot. They also generally don’t kill each other. So I’m not sure that your analogy works.
Is it good to beat the shit out of the school bully after he picks a fight with you so he learns to stop picking fights with people? I would say so.
Not if you’re quite similar to that bully
There’s a difference between being a good country and being a global force for good. In helping to defeat the Nazis, the U.S. was a global force for good regardless of what else they did, had done or will do. The same with Stalinist Russia.
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Not really
Bad countries can’t do good things?
If they did they’d be good countries
So it was bad to defeat the Nazis and the Confederates?
Vultures can kill each other
Vultures are good. They eat carrion that would otherwise rot. They also generally don’t kill each other. So I’m not sure that your analogy works.