• tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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    Reagan was one of the worst things to happen to the US. Maybe we should just stop electing shitty actors to do a difficult job.

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      Reagan (or more specifically Michael Deaver) taught us that propaganda works incredibly well, almost every time.

      Most of us didn’t learn it though. And here we are.

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        1 month ago

        Reagan (or more specifically Michael Deaver) taught us that propaganda works incredibly well, almost every time.

        Hitler (and many mfers before him) already taught that lesson, people fall for it every, single, time.

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      Reagan was one of the worst things to happen to the US.

      100% agree

      Maybe we should just stop electing shitty actors to do a difficult job.

      I’d argue the opposite on that tho.

      We kept hearing with Biden that a president can’t do much, it’s all Congress.

      So why are we running career politicians when the majority of America hates politicians? Why did we just one an ex-prosecuter when most Dem voters hate our justice system?

      Like, we can at least halfway it with someone like Al Franken, someone that started out somewhere else then switched to politics. But why not just say fuck it and run Taylor Swift for president? Count on her carrying the entire down ballot and getting dual majorities and she just has to not veto what lands on her desk.

      Either the president doesn’t really do anything and is just a figurehead or it has to be someone with decades of government experience.

      It can’t be both.

      But there’s certainly no reason to keep picking people with zero charisma for what’s basically a convoluted popularity contest. Even foreign relations, I guarantee foreign leaders would give Brad Pitt a better deal than Joe Biden. They’re not getting down into the nitty gritty, the drones work out the details anyways.

      Obama and Bill won off their charisma above all. Biden as well was incredibly charismatic back in the day, it’s just as came out recently, his health had been an issue basically the entire term. I’m not saying this as a dig, but he is a shell of his former self. 40 years ago he was considered the best public speaker of his generation.

      As much as I want a progressive and think they’d win on policy, what matters before the platform is charisma and we need to admit that.

      It’s insane we didn’t learn it after Al Gore, but clearly the DNC didnt.

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          It doesn’t matter how good you are at a job if you can’t get hired.

          The most important quality of any presidential candidate is being able to win a convoluted popularity contest.

          So we need to look at people that fit that criteria, then find a good candidate. Not find someone who would be a good president, that’s the easy part, there’s a shit ton of people who could be a good president like Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho, he didn’t have to be smart, just be popular and listen to a smart guy who told him what to do.

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              Exactly.

              They do not have the experience or necessarily even the qualities required to win a popularity contest on that scale.

              So I’m saying we find an empty suit that is good at winning popularity contests then listen to the party leaders in the House and Senate, since they’re the ones with decades of political experience, and I was about to write “and they write the laws” then remembered it’s mostly lobbyists and think-tank employees these days writing legislation.

              But that’s a whole nother issue.