From this article: https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/
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“based on CR member surveys” so its what people think is most reliable. Not what is actually most reliable.
Not all surveys are opinion surveys like political ones are. It’s just a method of data collection.
We calculate predicted reliability ratings for almost every new car, truck, and SUV on the market using data from Consumer Reports’ annual reliability surveys, which ask members about problems they’ve had with their vehicles
This year we calculated brand-level score by first examining the weighted overall problem rate for all models within a brand for each model year. Then the brand reliability score was calculated by averaging models from 2022 to 2024, and some early 2025 data for each brand, where there was sufficient sample size. We had insufficient data to create brand rankings for Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Lucid, Maserati, Mercedes-Benz, Mini, Mitsubishi, Polestar, Porsche, and Ram.
Right? It’s not like it’s unknowable how reliable a car is? I want to see the metrics I get for all other stuff on the planet. Uptime. Unscheduled maintenance dollars per year/kilometer. I know all companies that operate fleets have these numbers!
Right, the metric at the top is “predicted reliability” - how can that even be quantified? You buy a new car, you haven’t owned it long, please tell us how reliable you think this might be in the future
… So basically owning a Subaru makes you happier. That’s what I thought.
Owning a Subaru makes you smug.
Makes you depressed because you listen to normal all the time so you get a dog and go camping
Wow, how did Subaru get to the top, they had reliability issues for years ago
It’s been over a decade since they’ve addressed their head gasket issues by many accounts (the most notorious large failure they were known for around 100k miles). The main problem they have right now is the infotainment is hot garbage and very integrated into the cars (cheap, slow, touch screen based controls) and using CVTs (which other manufacturers also are using to get better mileage ratings).
Toyota and Honda on the other hand followed Ford and installed rubber belts where there is oil in the engine and are seeing failures way earlier than what they were known for. I know some of these annoying things since we had to shop for a car due to someone crashing against our 2006 Honda recently. I say annoying since it seems every new car out there is made to break.
How are any electric car makers so unreliable. They’re so mechanically simple.
How the hell do you fuck up so badly that you’re the bottom of the list Rivian??
“Since EV technology is still relatively new, automakers continue to work the bugs out of their powertrains and platforms,” Elek says. “But we also see issues with their non-EV components, such as the latest infotainment and electronic features.”
Electric cars are actually very complex. They monitor a ton of sensors and electrical properties constantly and need to manage everything.
It isn’t just a big motor and a big battery hooked up to a variable resistance switch at the accelerator.
I mean, they’re still a lot simpler than combustion cars. Like the other guy said, it’s probably because they’re startups.
They are mechanically simpler because they don’t have hundreds of parts in a combustion engine and an automatic transmission, but their overall complexity is much higher.
You have all of the electrical system out of a modern car(fucking complex) with all of the systems needed to handle the electric motors and batteries.
It is the different between a flip phone and a smartphone. The smartphone isn’t simpler because it doesn’t have as many buttons or a hinge.
There’s tons of electronics in a combustion engine too and transmission too, and infotainment bloatware is not exclusive to EVs at all.
The electronics in the actual EV powertrain lean more to beefy than complex, as well. A line that carries hundreds of amps and volts isn’t going to fit on a standard chip wafer, at least not without a lot of help.
