Summary
Sen. Bernie Sanders is touring Iowa and Nebraska to rally against “the oligarchy,” aiming to energize progressives rather than launch a 2028 presidential bid.
At 83, he seeks to shape the Democratic Party’s future, arguing it lost in 2024 by neglecting working-class voters.
He hopes to influence budget battles and the 2026 midterms, targeting GOP lawmakers in battleground districts.
With Democrats lacking clear leadership, Sanders’ prominence and focus on economic inequality could define the party’s direction in the Trump-Musk era.
Unfortunately he’ll probably end up the first to go in front of the firing squad
I’m at my states Capitol protesting and it’s kind of scary how many Trump supporters have driven by. But make no mistake, most are not for him. Call your representatives and demand action today. Don’t wait.
Yes, it’s a crisis now that his party is out of power. Sad to see you fall Bernie.
Bernie wants to drive working people and our movements back into the graveyard of the Democratic Party.
There is no movement outside the Democrats party… Unless you can post any proof?
What movements? As an outsider watching the US, are there any notable workers’ movements over there at the moment?
Refusing to support warhawk neoliberals like Biden and Harris seems to be a hell of a movement.
I mean, sure, but what else? I wouldn’t call ‘not voting for a candidate you don’t like’ a movement
It seems to me that Bernie is doing his best to create and energize a movement of working-class people in support of a better world. It isn’t trying to hijack an existing movement; because no cohesive movement currently exists. The lack of cohesion is exactly what Bernie is trying to address.
I think usually Bernie means well, but I think Democratic party is far beyond saving. We will have no significant progress no less opposition to fascism, until they are gone.
Electoralism is largely a dead end under the duopoly.
The sudden rush of tankies in the comments indicates to me that this is a strong enough move to make some oligarchs worried.
is a strong enough move LOL I wonder what “high-profile offensive” means? More empty virtue signalling. Yes, complain about the tankies and support this worthless larper. I’m sure the oligarch will be sooo scared of Bernie’s harsh objections, condemnations and intentions.
I’ll never understand the tankies label
sad cringe slander
because it’s stupid
I’d say unnecessary. Unless you’re using it as a slur
the fake progressives 100% use this as a slur.
Your mom married her cousin
The way I think of it is as follows: if you like the idea of socialism or communism, and you think the only way to get there is to have an authoritative leader “clean house” before they for some reason or another decide to give the power back to the people, then you are a tankie.
In my opinion, an authoritative leader will never give up power back to the people willingly. Or if an authoritative gets in charge, it will never dismantle systems like capitalism because capitalists give authoritative people power.
Another good hint is if they really like the idea of murdering billionaires even if there are less violent solutions to it. I’m not saying that there are currently less violent solutions. I’m just saying they will never go out of their way for less violent solutions. As if they like the idea of murder a lot.
Is a tankie someone who blindly supports the military indistrial complex? Or is it someone who loves tank sized SUVs?
They’re blind apologists for the various left regimes that have identified themselves as leftist, anti-imperialist, anti-western, sometimes even including North Korea and Cambodia under Pol Pot. Often they align themselves with right-wing governments like modern Russia and Iran, because they’re against the geopolitical west.
The term was coined after the USSR rolled tanks into Hungary in the 50’s to squash pro (Socialist) democracy protests. Some leftists stuck with the Soviets as they matched into Hungary and Praugue, and others spoke out against what they saw as tyrannical repression of democracy.
tankie is one who says all the mass murders, genocide, rape et all communists have done historically didnt exist\was okay.
have done historically didnt exist\was okay.
More like “didn’t exist, but was okay even if it did” lol.
Yes
Oh cool another wannabe gerontocrat
Cultivate an ideological successor please Bernie.
It’s not AOC, she’s a sell out.
We gotta take Capitalism down before it takes us down
But is capitalism really the issue here? As far as I can tell, you can put in place any economic agenda, if people just vote against themselves and if laws are actively ignored, the economic policy doesn’t really matter?
You are right that you can have authoritarian policies in any economic system, but capitalism in America has led to our authoritarianism. Capitalism does this as it relies on single ownership of the means of production, so it inherently centralized power and wealth.Think about the oligarchs, they control how wealth is distributed through their companies. If their workers had a say in the sharing of the profits, there is no way people would vote to give people enough wealth to control the globe while screwing over the rest of us. Also, if people are more individualized, like in America, they vote less on their group benefit, and what they see as their own benefit. This leads to fascism’s easy rise to power, but putting the blame on others.
Laws are often ignored in history through periods of change; I’d say it’s a matter of people agreeing or disagreeing with them.
In this case, it’s about a very strong push by very wealthy people to trick masses of followers into thinking their billionaire daddy’s are fighting for them.
Ostensibly, that push would be harder if there was not such a uniform path to wealth disparity where one idiot owns so much.
83 and he’s still got that dog in him.
While I feel bernie wants to save capitalism from itself rather then replace it, I have to admire the persistence. I would have died 3 deaths of despair if I would have gone through what he has. And to just watch the nation melt around you no matter what you do or say.
Bernie Sanders is a stronger man then me
Yep, he won’t bite the hand that feeds him. He’s a good doggy. Barks loud but when it matters he does exactly what master says.
Go recycle yourself into something more useful, please.
Lol You know it’s a post-truth world when the most consistent, anti-corruption senator is the one “doing exactly what master says”. Obligatory no one’s perfect and we should call out bad behavior from anyone, but feel free to compare him to a more moral current US politican. Please, I’ll wait…
He’s never been anything other than a sheepdog for the DNC.
How in the hell are you hating on Bernie Sanders of all people you could hate on?
We suffer from a lack of critical thinking in America. Most people cant see past the end of their noses.
I hate hypocrites more than the ones not even pretending. This rat has just as much blood on his hands as Genocide Joe, Copmala, Trump or whoever.
lol no and its not even close
Please give examples lol
If you look at his vote record he hasn’t bowed to anyone, even when he’s been the only senator voting against something
he’s been the only senator voting against something>
I have literally said this in another comment. He and other fake progressives do this when they are absolutely sure it will have no consequences. Not when it’s possibly a close call. Pure empty virtue signaling.
I’ll copy another comment on his voting habbits tho :
VOTED in favor of almost every US invasion in the following nations: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia,2, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, Sudan, and Ukraine. Even parroting the regime narrative that drones ‘are sellective’ and ‘take out the people they should’ while 90% they killed are innocent people. Be a “I am 100% pro-Israel” genocide supporter. VOTES in favour of the US aid to the Zionist settler-colony every time. VOTED in favor of a resolution that “reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 . During the 2014 assault on Gaza, blatantly biased Senate resolutions S. Res 498 and S. Res 526 that fully condoned the Israeli assault and characterized it as “self-defense” were passed by unanimous consent. Although Sanders did not co-sponsor either resolution, he failed to register any formal objection (a resolution passes by unanimous consent if no objection is raised; as such, no vote is taken). To be clear, this is not the first time Sanders failed to speak up in Congress against Israel’s brutal assault of Gaza. In 2012, Sanders failed to register any objection against biased Senate resolution S. Res 599 that couched Israel’s bombing of Gaza as “self-defense” and that passed by unanimous consent; according to Human Rights organization B’Tselem, 167 Palestinians were killed, including at least 87 civilians (vs. 4 Israeli civilians). In 2009, biased Senate resolution S. Res 10 backed Israel’s assault on Gaza and yet again justified it as Israel’s “right to defend itself” without garnering any objection from Sanders (it passed by unanimous consent); according to B’Tselem, 1387 Palestinians were killed, including at least 773 civilians (vs. 3 Israeli civilians). In 2006, Sanders actually supported the brutal Israeli assault on Gaza and Lebanon during the war that killed 1191 Lebanese civilians per Amnesty International (vs. 43 Israeli civilians killed) when he VOTED Yea to House resolution H. Res 921.
He can speech, object, condemn or whatever he does. It’s empty words.
Troll
Lame and weak.
Piss baby.
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You certainly are.
You mean THIS house resolution 921?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/921
H.Res.921 - Honoring the 30th anniversary of the National Guard Youth Challenge Program. 118th Congress (2023-2024)
I think I smell bullshit
NO, https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-109hres921ih/pdf/BILLS-109hres921ih.pdf from 2006.
Nice try tho.
You’ve got nothing
You’ve got a shit attitude and folks won’t listen until you fix yourself.
If they can’t take the truth it’s their problem. They have been screwing themselves for centuries continuing this uniparty BS and their token progressives. AOC can take over from him and they can continue for centuries more. Me personally am doing great and none of this, whoever wins anything affects me in the least. I just don’t get how people can vote against their own interests. Then again there’s black and latinos for Trump so there doesn’t seem to be much logic in people’s reasoning.
He and other fake progressives do this when they are absolutely sure it will have no consequences.
Not when it’s possibly a close call. Pure empty virtue signaling.
First off, based on everything else he does - who fucking cares fr What a great way to both share your stance on an issue and garner attention for your causes - stand out. It’s both harmless and clever - in American Politics even.
TF is this opinion?
Who cares about his VOTING? The only thing that actually has effect. Right, “but he SAYS what we think so well” that’s what important to you? Great take.
Your claim is that “Bernie being the only one voting ‘no’ is virtue signaling.” where my point is that if you know a vote is going to pass or fail, you might as well either stand out of use that opportunity to voice your opinion. If a vote is going to pass regardless of Bernies vote, who care if he wants to use that as a catalyst to spread his message, ideas, and opinions.
I have posted an extensive list of his horrible pro-war empire and zionist voting. Leave the " to voice your opinion…a catalyst to spread his message, ideas, and opinions." for the brochure. The only thing he’s spreading is the illusion there is place for progressives in that horrible party and to keep gullible people away from 3rd parties that actually want change. End of convo
Just some life advice. I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish with your comment, but a fairly awful person once said: however beautiful your strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
Really, there’s nothing wrong with being an idealist but at some point you need to work with what you have.
Gabage lesser evil take if not gaslighting. This has systematically led to even worse candidates. Culminating in an actual genocider, all the same endorsed by people like precious Bernie.
This is not ‘working with what you have’, this is keeping that horrible system in place. People can vote 3rd party, you know how people in real democracies did. I’ve seen it happen plenty with hopeless parties getting 3% at first then groing every few years to eventually winning.
And it’s very clear ‘what I’m trying to do’ since it’s very obvious. Exposing Sanders for the fake progressive he is so less people fall for his BS and waste their vote.
Also I resent this loaded question as if I had some evil motive. Here’s my life advice:
“Two roads diverged in a wood, and I… I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.”
In other words, grow some balls if you actually care and want to change something.
People can vote 3rd party, you know how people in real democracies did. I’ve seen it happen plenty with hopeless parties getting 3% at first then groing every few years to eventually winning.
Won’t happen in the US unless we get some form of ranked choice voting.
Look at the last 25 years or so from the various Election wikis:
2000 - Green (Nader) 2.74%, Reform (Buchanan) 0.43%, Libertarian 0.36%, Constitution 0.09%, Natural Law 0.08%.
2004 - Reform 0.38% (Nader this time instead of Buchanan), Libertarian 0.32%, Constitution 0.12%, Green 0.10%, Peace and Freedom 0.02%, Socialist 0.01%, Socialist Workers 0.01%, Christian Freedom 0.002%.
2008 - Nader 0.56%, Libertarian 0.4%, Constitution 0.15%, Green 0.12%, America’s Independent Party 0.04%
2012 - Libertarian 0.99%, Green 0.36% (Jill Stein), Constitution 0.09%, Peace and Freedom 0.05% (Roseanne Barr), Justice 0.03%, America’s 0.03%.
2016 - Libertarian 3.28%, Green 1.07% (Jill Stein), Independant 0.54%, Constitution 0.15%, Socialism and Liberation 0.05%.
2020 - Libertarian 1.18%, Green 0.26% (Howie Hawkins), Reform 0.19%.
2024 - Green (Jill Stein) 0.56%, RFK Jr. 0.49%, Libertarian 0.42%.
The best shot any 3rd party had was Nader in 2000 and the Libertarians in 2016. All other races? Yeah, no. You know it’s bad when you can add up ALL the 3rd parties across multiple elections and still not crack 3%.
I don’t think you’re wrong, I don’t think you’re quite right either. I do like what you’re getting at. Bernie, relatively speaking, is way better than the other candidates we can currently choose from. That’s what I’m getting at, you’re attacking someone on a single issue and ignoring everything else they say and do. Hardly anybody will listen to you. They’re writing you off as a weird, single issue voter. Don’t you think your issues would have a better shot of being addressed if there were more people like Bernie in congress? Seems like abstaining instead of choosing the lesser evil also isn’t working.
You Gaza people are getting old and your hissy fits are helping the downfall of American democracy. Please tell me, what other genocides are going on right now? what other conflicts do you know about? Ukraine is a war of self defense you muppet.
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Haha what?
Just more disinformation. They’ll throw anything at him in hopes that it sticks. They have no idea how to handle decades of sincere authenticity and prescience.
Just more disinformation LOL shouldn’t that be RUZZIAN disinformation? I throw FACTS, you have nothing but baseless slander.
Here’s just a small part of your great hero’s decades of sincere authenticity and prescience track record, you must’ve missed that:
VOTED in favor of almost every US invasion in the following nations: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia,2, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, Sudan, and Ukraine. Even parroting the regime narrative that drones ‘are sellective’ and ‘take out the people they should’ while 90% they killed are innocent people. Be a “I am 100% pro-Israel” genocide supporter. VOTES in favour of the US aid to the Zionist settler-colony every time. VOTED in favor of a resolution that “reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 . During the 2014 assault on Gaza, blatantly biased Senate resolutions S. Res 498 and S. Res 526 that fully condoned the Israeli assault and characterized it as “self-defense” were passed by unanimous consent. Although Sanders did not co-sponsor either resolution, he failed to register any formal objection (a resolution passes by unanimous consent if no objection is raised; as such, no vote is taken). To be clear, this is not the first time Sanders failed to speak up in Congress against Israel’s brutal assault of Gaza. In 2012, Sanders failed to register any objection against biased Senate resolution S. Res 599 that couched Israel’s bombing of Gaza as “self-defense” and that passed by unanimous consent; according to Human Rights organization B’Tselem, 167 Palestinians were killed, including at least 87 civilians (vs. 4 Israeli civilians). In 2009, biased Senate resolution S. Res 10 backed Israel’s assault on Gaza and yet again justified it as Israel’s “right to defend itself” without garnering any objection from Sanders (it passed by unanimous consent); according to B’Tselem, 1387 Palestinians were killed, including at least 773 civilians (vs. 3 Israeli civilians). In 2006, Sanders actually supported the brutal Israeli assault on Gaza and Lebanon during the war that killed 1191 Lebanese civilians per Amnesty International (vs. 43 Israeli civilians killed) when he VOTED Yea to House resolution H. Res 921.
You don’t have to like him, but you’re the one being a fucking weird freak about it.
No politician ever will ever be 100% in line with what you want. I think it’s very shameful that he voted in favor of Rubio, doesn’t make everything else he’s done irrelevant.
Grow up.
What a waste of your time that was.
I dunno, feels fairly productive — I got three blocks out of just one thread.
Good. Let them burn their life away.
Once again he’s gonna dog anyone who supports him.
I’m subscribed to both his YT channels and he’s been running a full offensive for decades, nothing seems to be changing recently on that front.
Bahaha you cant rally progressives.
because liberals/the left are not a unified party.
Its 33 different parties in a trenchcoat, unified only by their opposition to the insanity coming out of the right wing.
The left and liberals are not even close to each other on the political scale. Liberals share more ideology with Republicans than they do leftists.
This one is fun because Republicans told us this and now liberals vote Republican. I love the new world. We do their work for them. They’ve weaponized our autism
Cool, so we’re fucked then. It applies to the right as well but they make it work. But the left just comes up with excuses why we don’t even like each other
Yes, thats literally what I said, and totally not a projection of your own defeatism which is the actual problem.
So they’re making a progressive party?
He should be pushing to replace First past the post voting so these 3rd parties can compete with the democrats on who can smash the republicans the best.
Defeating the Republicans is more important then the Democratic party. Democrats have lost their unearned privilege to go it alone against the republicans. Pass the reforms in blue states and we will work on the red states together
That would mean gathering enough support to do it from people that got where they are because of it. It seems impossible.
Bernie 2016
Bernie 2020
Bernie 2024Fuck the Democrats
Bernie told me to vote for the Democrat every time he lost the primary to them, I did what Bernie told me.
Exactly. Read any of his books. He understands that the only way a progressive party will ever gain power in this country is by running as Democrats and exerting progressive political capital to reform the Democratic party.
Bernie knows that the most staple progressive issues are wildly popular with the American people, and he knows probably better than anyone alive in this country today that progressives are up against on oligarchy with unlimited control over the media and unlimited financial and human resources to fight progressive agendas, and get he still fights. Why? See point two: progressive policy is wildly popular in the United States and we outnumber the billionaires.
There’s no reason we can’t fix that by implementing rank choice voting. It works great in several places in the US.
Yes, the lesser genocide choice. Sometimes the game is too obvious.
It must be exhausting have your head lodged up your ass all the time.
do you have an argument somewhere?
Not with you. That’s pointless.
That would be a waste of effort on someone like you.
How sad is this? Do you need an alt account or is it really two of you together not able tostring an argument together and only offer lame attempts at insults? Is Reddit down?
Is Reddit down? You tell us, five day old account.
lol
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a corrupt criminal who should be in jail.
What? Fuck the Democrats but not this one in particular?
Democrats as in the DNC party, who in their corporate interests refuses to promote and push for candidates that have fought for the people.
Also Bernie is an independent who works closely with democrats, because unfortunately we’re essentially stuck with a two party system.
That corporate wing of the party, the clintonites, etc, are losing power.
The writing on the wall can’t be any more clear than it is right now.
In 2016, 2020, and 2024, they could still argue that people wanted a more middle ground. That ship is sailed.
Bernie might as well be in the party and endorsed their prefered corporate ghouls. Genocide Joe TWICE (changing his choice from horrible Hillary). He is there to play his role (like AOC and others of the cringe squad) and will always tow the party line in a vote. He will go against it when it’s sure to lose. Pure virtue signalling. He will talk the talk, never walk the walk. Imagine that, a politician lying!
we’re essentially stuck with a two party system.
Sure if you keep voting for them.
What walk do you want him to walk? What do you want him to do differently? Specifically.
What do you do to walk that walk? Specifically.
VOTING is walking the walk, very simple. What do I want him to do differently? Specifically?
maybe not be a warmonger. VOTED in favor of almost every US invasion in the following nations: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia,2, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, Sudan, and Ukraine. Even parroting the regime narrative that drones ‘are sellective’ and ‘take out the people they should’ while 90% they killed are innocent people. Be a “I am 100% pro-Israel” genocide supporter. VOTES in favour of the US aid to the Zionist settler-colony every time. VOTED in favor of a resolution that “reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 . During the 2014 assault on Gaza, blatantly biased Senate resolutions S. Res 498 and S. Res 526 that fully condoned the Israeli assault and characterized it as “self-defense” were passed by unanimous consent. Although Sanders did not co-sponsor either resolution, he failed to register any formal objection (a resolution passes by unanimous consent if no objection is raised; as such, no vote is taken). To be clear, this is not the first time Sanders failed to speak up in Congress against Israel’s brutal assault of Gaza. In 2012, Sanders failed to register any objection against biased Senate resolution S. Res 599 that couched Israel’s bombing of Gaza as “self-defense” and that passed by unanimous consent; according to Human Rights organization B’Tselem, 167 Palestinians were killed, including at least 87 civilians (vs. 4 Israeli civilians). In 2009, biased Senate resolution S. Res 10 backed Israel’s assault on Gaza and yet again justified it as Israel’s “right to defend itself” without garnering any objection from Sanders (it passed by unanimous consent); according to B’Tselem, 1387 Palestinians were killed, including at least 773 civilians (vs. 3 Israeli civilians). In 2006, Sanders actually supported the brutal Israeli assault on Gaza and Lebanon during the war that killed 1191 Lebanese civilians per Amnesty International (vs. 43 Israeli civilians killed) when he VOTED Yea to House resolution H. Res 921.
He can speech, object, condemn or whatever he does. It’s empty words.
What do you do to walk that walk? Specifically. Don’t divert and make it about me.
Oh, good. You’re braindead and I can just not even finish reading that. Once I got to the 3rd blatantly false lie, I stopped caring.
Once I got to the 3rd blatantly false lie.
Care to back up your slanderous claim?
Bernie is not a democrat
Unless the democratic party’s platform becomes deny the oligarchy access to the levers of power, defend the working and middle class against the billionaires, and depose those who would enact political violence via law or pen, I’m not interested.
Good News:
He’s not a Democrat
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be a mother fucking duck. He talks one thing while asking us to support his good friends, the oligarchy.
right, the only person in washington trying to get money out of politics is for the oligarchy. the one person who brow beats against the oligarchy, is actually for the oligarchy. you’re a straight up moron, my dude.
Someone who talks about oligarchy and then tells us that we need to support his good oligarchy buddies is a tool.
So just let the republicans rule forever nice choice.
It’s hard to tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans. They both seem to embrace the same ideology.
No it isn’t.
Republicans are fascist, eugenicist, lead-addled dementia patients with no regard for human life outside their immediate families and even then only to the degree that they can be exploited. Their core values are narcissism and personal greed.
Democrats are performatively-compassionate cowards who are terrified of change and value avoiding conflict above anything else. Their core values are looking outwardly like they give a damn and not being yelled at by anybody.
The two are incredibly distinct from one another.
Fascism cannot rise on its own. Fascism is only possible with a weak, complicit liberal party. Their continual ratchet effect has enabled Our current level of fascism in this country.
Real Question - Bernie Sanders is old; it’s 83. If Bernie passes - who carries on his message? AOC? Who fr? You?
Which, in my opinion, the message is honest outreach to people, IRL, and share the message that Billionares are buying our Politicians which needs to be addressed (like, the sooner the better)?
AOC couldn’t carry that message if her life depended on it. She’d turn some 20 years old white kids into slacktivists and collect donations before reinforcing the status quo.
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