Will Americans get tired of being pushed around? They seem to prefer helping the fascists by pushing each other around instead, judging by the repeated attempts on Lemmy to place everything Trump does squarely under the responsibility of the non-voters.
From my outside perspective, they like acting as the victim too much to actually fight back.
Why don’t you blame the cause for there to be so many apathetic people in your country instead of blaming the people who were only reacting to the treatment they’ve been given up to now?
It seems you people really love victim blaming when it conveniences you. I swear your insistence on acting smug for being the “right voter” is what will let Trump get full control of your country.
Hey, at least you can scream that you were right while your country crumbles around you. I’m sure that’s worth something.
It is not about being smug. It’s lamenting the fact that so many sat out not because the Democrats were offering something terrible, but because they didn’t feel catered to enough, or the Democrats didn’t offer up a pretty, pretty pony.
And now we are dealing with this asshole. Not because the majority actually want this. But because a sizable majority sat out or even voted for donvict as a way of trying to really stick it to Democrats so that they learn some kind of “lesson”.
The Democrats WAS offering something terrible. Just because Trump is worse, doesn’t make what the Dem offered not terrible. If your side had acknowledged this instead of attacking everyone who tried to tell you, maybe you’d have a chance at making the DNC offer something that the voters actually wanted and actually be able to beat Trump. But no, instead everyone that wasn’t blindly accepting everything the Dems offered is treated like the enemy before the election, and now you even continue doing so after the election.
You’re just living in la la land if you think doing this will make people finally support your cause. This is why I say you’re acting smug. You only care that you were right over these people, and not over the consequences of your action on your country’s ability to fight full-on fascism in the near future. What you’re doing is the same as the non-voters, making the wrong choice for the sake of teaching the non-voters a “lesson”. It’s just another chain of stupid decisions the non-fascists are making to enable the rise of fascism.
I’d say good luck dealing with the consequences if you decide to continue doing this. I might not be directly affected by this, by I would definitely feel the fallout after the fact. At that time, I won’t be blaming you any less for enabling fascism than the non-voters.
You are addressing this to me as if I’m running the Democratic Party or something.
I’m just a realist. There were TWO choices on the ballot. That’s it.
Come November, doing anything else was just ultimately in support of the likes of donvict, Project 2025, fElon and his MOE, etc. You can sit there and feel smug in your decision if you stayed home, or if you threw your vote away on something that was not Kamala, I guess? The likes of fElon and Bronzo the Clown can thank folks like you.
Bots aside, I think that’s because we’re the rabble, meaning we haven’t fully organized and activated, since successful rebellions align people toward a shared cause.
Recruitment takes time, but I’d encourage you to be on the lookout for less infighting and doomerism from Americans around here. Once you do, you will know they’ve found a more appealing outlet for that energy, perhaps one that actually lets them do something about it.
Will Americans get tired of being pushed around? They seem to prefer helping the fascists by pushing each other around instead, judging by the repeated attempts on Lemmy to place everything Trump does squarely under the responsibility of the non-voters.
From my outside perspective, they like acting as the victim too much to actually fight back.
Well, if we didn’t have so many apathetic, stubborn, and contrary people in this country, would we even be talking about Bronzo the Clown right now?
So, yes, voters (and non-voters) ARE to blame for him being in office. He didn’t vote himself into the WH.
Why don’t you blame the cause for there to be so many apathetic people in your country instead of blaming the people who were only reacting to the treatment they’ve been given up to now?
It seems you people really love victim blaming when it conveniences you. I swear your insistence on acting smug for being the “right voter” is what will let Trump get full control of your country.
Hey, at least you can scream that you were right while your country crumbles around you. I’m sure that’s worth something.
It is not about being smug. It’s lamenting the fact that so many sat out not because the Democrats were offering something terrible, but because they didn’t feel catered to enough, or the Democrats didn’t offer up a pretty, pretty pony.
And now we are dealing with this asshole. Not because the majority actually want this. But because a sizable majority sat out or even voted for donvict as a way of trying to really stick it to Democrats so that they learn some kind of “lesson”.
It’s just so stupid.
The Democrats WAS offering something terrible. Just because Trump is worse, doesn’t make what the Dem offered not terrible. If your side had acknowledged this instead of attacking everyone who tried to tell you, maybe you’d have a chance at making the DNC offer something that the voters actually wanted and actually be able to beat Trump. But no, instead everyone that wasn’t blindly accepting everything the Dems offered is treated like the enemy before the election, and now you even continue doing so after the election.
You’re just living in la la land if you think doing this will make people finally support your cause. This is why I say you’re acting smug. You only care that you were right over these people, and not over the consequences of your action on your country’s ability to fight full-on fascism in the near future. What you’re doing is the same as the non-voters, making the wrong choice for the sake of teaching the non-voters a “lesson”. It’s just another chain of stupid decisions the non-fascists are making to enable the rise of fascism.
I’d say good luck dealing with the consequences if you decide to continue doing this. I might not be directly affected by this, by I would definitely feel the fallout after the fact. At that time, I won’t be blaming you any less for enabling fascism than the non-voters.
You are addressing this to me as if I’m running the Democratic Party or something.
I’m just a realist. There were TWO choices on the ballot. That’s it.
Come November, doing anything else was just ultimately in support of the likes of donvict, Project 2025, fElon and his MOE, etc. You can sit there and feel smug in your decision if you stayed home, or if you threw your vote away on something that was not Kamala, I guess? The likes of fElon and Bronzo the Clown can thank folks like you.
Bots aside, I think that’s because we’re the rabble, meaning we haven’t fully organized and activated, since successful rebellions align people toward a shared cause.
Recruitment takes time, but I’d encourage you to be on the lookout for less infighting and doomerism from Americans around here. Once you do, you will know they’ve found a more appealing outlet for that energy, perhaps one that actually lets them do something about it.