The US has threatened Russia for last 80 years. At increased levels in last 20 years. Forcing Russia to defend itself in last 3 years has made it stronger. There is absolute blowback danger from Russia, that can extend to nuclear destruction, but it as fully self inflicted as going around zoinking Grizzly bears’ tails. Foreign national threats to US are entirely the result of US evil, and US desperation is making it worse.
Idk anything about ms 13 so I can’t try to assess them as a threat. But I have a hard time imagining a gang or terror group coming close to russia in terms of threat to Americans
Trump, GOP, MAGA > Russia > China > MS-13
Russia, biggest mafia in the world, and also funds White supremecist/right wing groups all over the worlds.
And US presidents
Russia. MS-13 is nothing in comparison. Though it wouldn’t surprise me if Russia supports MS-13 as part of their hybrid warfare. That’s how they work.
Understand that Russia has largely been able to put US to its knees through hybrid methods that utilize and enhance the negative effects of american arrogance, neoliberal dogmatism and the war on drugs. Trump is the final stage before the empire comes down. It’s probably too late to turn the ship around by now. China + EU is already the facto world leaders and the US is doing everything to destroy itself and there is no real political and economical self-awareness among people with power.
The US should have started to decrease inequality, stop the war on drugs and enforced (sane) tariffs and migration policies 15 years ago. The EU has the same problems, but there isn’t the same level of inequality and political extremism and fundamentalism, which makes me believe that the EU will survive as a western democracy and relevant world player, but the US will not.
Ah this point?
You’re own bloody country
Trump
Then Russia. Thats where the ACTUAL voter interference comes from.
Trump.
We count that as russia.
No you dont
We do
Well my retirement isn’t down because of ms-13
Gangs are bad. Thing is, you don’t fight gangs with military you fight them with relief. Gangs thrive on hurt people and the people who are suffering. If you relieve the hurt and suffering poverty causes you destroy the gangs ability to recruit.
Considering Russia kind of just put the final nail in the coffin for your democracy, probably Russia
Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost - the “homegrown” criminal gang.
Seriously, had you heard about MS-13 before Trump?
Glorifying gang culture was really popular in the 90’s-2000’s so I was definately slightly aware of ms-13 from someplace. Maybe law and order or some other show mentioned it. I was never really aware of DT until he ran for president.
Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost
Soooooooo…. You’re saying Russia then.
Yes
It was probably one of the few buttons america even had before trump.
Ms-13, Isis, Blm and that was fox news
Ms-13, Isis, Blm and that was fox news
E-xactly.
I guess it depends on how many nuclear weapons MS-13 has.
That’s a joke right? MS-13 isn’t trying to invade Ukraine.
Not a joke, apparently, read the other comments.
Okay, I read them. What’s your point? What are your intentions? Put me down for Russia ig.
Point is some people take the threat of MS-13 way too seriously.
I’m more worried about never being able to own a home or never being able to support myself. I’m more worried that i’ll never learn another language then I am some street gang I have never seen.
Because you don’t engage with right wing media like these sick fucks. If you read the shit they are being fed you realize if these same people found jack and the bean stalk in the nonfiction section they would put a nation wide ban on beans.
They also infiltrate left wing circles. They can be pretty clever. Not to sound paranoid but I’ve seen them on Lemmy. People convinced that Ukraine is some sort of Nazi state that Russia is justified in invading. Nevermind all the Nazi groups in Russia and abroad that are funded by Russia. Call this shit out when you see it. Try to deprogram them if you can I guess. They probably have to see it for themselves though.
It’s an artificial crisis planned by the trump admin years ago
https://apnews.com/general-news-international-news-88ba0f2a51b35bf8195e886d4210e5c3
- international: Russia (and their puppet, Trump)
- domestic: we have enough racist, fascist domestic terrorists (ex. Proud Boys, Patriot Front, etc., etc.) that pose far more of a threat to the US than MS-13
The only other time I had ever heard of MS-13 was the psychopathic rantings of a former cop I worked with briefly. Hmmm… wonder why they aren’t a cop anymore?
ironically russia also fund those white supremecy groups to, they have been known to, sow division in the us, and other countries.
They should be concerned about the dictator problem they have at home.
