They can’t fix their music app on the iphone. With every version this crap runs worse.
One way, pre-recorded beeper, more like it.
“technology is cyclical.”
It’s almost a shame that they decided to go with wide instead of tall.
can they even patent that? its already a thing that made it to production on at least one brand that sells in north america and another two or more in china
It’s fake bro lol
To an extent it is. Apple is or has started the patent for this. The image is just rendered for a visual representation of what they are doing, and for us to see they are reinventing old tech.
Ya sorry that’s what I meant lol. Like that’s not a real product Apple made it’s some fanart nonesense. Someone else linked the proper patent on my other reply which does have legs because it’s essentially an iPod with a pairable headset. Which means you could just play tunes off the case like the Apple Watch. Since you kind of always need the case, it makes sense.
I’m guessing Cook is worried about cannibalism with the precious iPhone, and likely watch. The price point would also be an issue, I can’t see AirPod Pros jumping to $700!
No worries! I figured you did, but I wanted to add extra context for anyone as slow as me lmao!
It maaaaakkkeees sense, but i’ll never go back to ios anything lol! I gave it a try for a few years, even went SUPER deep into the ecosystem. Leaving was a pain, but im glad I did.
I think JBL did it and they’re a well established brand
I was gonna say, pretty sure I’ve seen something like this on Amazon already, except from some weird Chinese company.
Chinese != Weird
can they even patent that?
What “that”? They can patent a specific technical solution that is unique to their product, not the idea per se.
I mean, this wouldn’t be all that stupid imo. Add some Apple watch functionality like fitness detection and easy syncing between phone and iPod Nano Buds, this would be a solid addition to a runner’s arsenal leaving no need to carry your $1000 phone on a run. Suppose you could use your watch for that and leave the case at home though. But more options aren’t a bad thing, not everyone has or wants a watch.
leaving no need to carry your $1000 phone on a run.
my brother in christ it’s called an MP3 player.
Yeah, precisely. That’s what this would be, built into your headphone case. You never have one without the other.
right, then what if you could sync any bluetooth headphones to the case? mind blown
edit : or if it had a 3.5mm jack, so you could use wired headphones too? amazing. in fact, what if it also took AA batteries for emergencies?
You are right, but I also think you missed the point of the post. This is basically an iPod nano from 2005 with a few extra features.
Also a few less features given I’m guessing it can’t store its own music and needs to be paired with the phone.
This is the first apple device I would willingly buy.
You could also just get a Tangara
I was mostly intrigued with the idea of having the wireless bud case be the music player, which would mean carrying the headphones in their case would be the only thing I need to carry if I want music.
In retrospect, this is probably just a remote screen for the phone it’s connected to.
As someone who carries a set of wired earbuds “just in case” I get that
exactly. The number of times I’ve had my buds but not my phone is embarrassing.
I’m surprised nobody has done yet as I’ve seen all sorts of features be added to earphone cases. Maybe a decent touchscreen is not yet cheap enough to throw at some case without the profit margin of the apple brand.
They have done it. There’s lots of Chinese earbuds with screens. Even JBL did it.
My coworker bought an ear bud case that he can play flappy bird on.
Tbf this might be the most original thing apple has done.
I would agree, but yet again, this is something I’ve seen 4 other versions of before apple gets to it.
The items on display at the gas station counter don’t count.
Heh, yeah I’m talking about things I’ve seen on Amazon and stuff. Case with screen and data storage that can directly play to the headphones.
There are tons of chinese brands that offer this type of headphones with display
Yep. I have two pairs already.
people are going to lose and break these and it will cost than so much
New air pods can’t be paired to them.
That’s why the next generation earphones will be wired.
If this ever got released, it would probably require constant phoning home and cost $400. Separately.
Doesn’t the Apple Watch already fulfill the function of an iPod Nano? It works with Bluetooth headphones and has 16 GB of storage you can use for music, which is a lot by iPod Nano standards.
Pretty sure a Nano would last far more with a single charge though
My series 9 has 64GB. I have multiple playlists downloaded to it which is great for the gym. You can also just stream music from it over wifi or cellular.
I have earbuds that don’t need to be charged and use a cable for easy connectivity and sound quality.
You know what’s easier than a cable? No cable.
I’ll give you sound quality, but the whole reason that wireless earbuds took off is the hassle of wires.
I finally went wireless a week ago. I realized their advantage when the cable on my headphones broke for a millionth time.
I don’t remember what did it for me, I switched a while ago. But, I do clearly remember one time when I had the kind of moulded earphones that go really deep in your ear, and I caught the cable on something, and they got yanked out of my ears. That was pretty painful.
Horrid quality and batteries are rarely replaceable. Pointless.
I guess if I listened to crappy music I wouldn’t care about the sound quality.
Ooh, BUUURN! BUUUUUUUUUURN!!!
And also no latency. Even expensive Bluetooth headphones and earbuds have crap latency. The systems that don’t are either proprietary and not widely supported (e.g. aptX) or expensive 'phones-and-dongle arrangements that must always travel in a pair and still don’t compete on latency with a pair of dollar store earbuds.
Unless you’re using them for gaming or some other interactive medium, latency doesn’t really matter though. For music, latency is irrelevant and for video, your device will take care of syncing the audio and video playback so it’s a non issue. Audio quality is an entirely different matter of course.
Your video player “can” account for latency if you configure it correctly which I imagine the majority of people don’t do, and simply put up with it. Ditto with your music playback always lagging 1-2 seconds behind your control inputs. I have never used a media player on any platform that automatically figured out audio latency. Maybe the iDevices do if you pair them with Airpods, I don’t know; I don’t own anything Apple and I never will.
It also matters for music production, and makes life a lot more pleasant for audio/video editing. Plus, latency is just annoying in any setting.
Yes indeed, Apple’s had acceptable latency (e.g. for YouTube) since no later than 2017.
I’ve only thought about it when specifically wondering how they pulled it off (and I assumed the phone did something slightly fancy to add a delay on the visual side)
Glad you’ve never paid their tax in any case!
not widely supported (e.g. aptX)
I can find over 600 aptX capable headphones as well as over 850 phones, also any laptop I ever had supported it (Linux though, so probably not always “official” lol).
Low latency is a thing, you can get this as low as ~30-50ms either through aptX LL / Adaptive, whatever the manufacturer apps do or by manually meddling with the settings for SBC. Will get rather unstable though since you effectively get rid of the buffer. Really depends on your usecase what you prefer. Personally I love having ANC headphones that support bluetooth but also got a headphone jack in cases where I sit in trains, buses or planes for hours and want to play some games or listen to music with a DAC.
Almost always Bluetooth for me.
Might plug into the car to get higher quality audio. Will use a cable with a mic at home, but even then I might use AirPods for listening and only use the cable to speak into.
It stands to reason there can’t be that many audiophiles who could tell the difference between Bluetooth and aux while listening to their little Spotify playlists, but oh boy-
So many more people can tell when you’re speaking over spanking-new $200 AirPods versus the old dinky pair of stock EarPods from the bottom of the junk drawer. Cable reins supreme, no competition. (and with the best dictation software, simply whispering into the hardwired mic is sufficient for ~95(+)% accuracy)
If you’re listening to podcasts or music, latency doesn’t really matter.
You really think that’s a dunk? “Wireless” just means you plug it in when not in use. There’s nothing hard about plugging in a 3.5mm audio jack. I’ve never been sufficiently convinced to actually use wireless headphones. They seem like more of a hassle for a worse listing experience.
Wireless means you plug it in occasionally, maybe once a week.
If you don’t value the convenience of wireless headphones, that’s great for you. For a lot of people, the cable is a real pain in the ass. It gets tangled up when it’s off. It gets caught up on things when it’s on, etc.
Mm & also how about respecting the electronics and (maybe a little bit obsessive-compulsively) wrapping the entire cord up and zipping it into a case… every single time
(Skill or rather personal policy issue, ya, that one might be on me)
But don’t even have to put my head against the phone for a quick call when a single earbud is right in my pocket ready to be slipped out and stuck back in, blind ‘n’ fast
I feel like I’d forget to charge them. Or drop them in a public place and not want to put them in my ears because I’m a germaphobe. I know someone who dropped theirs in a toilet.
Then don’t get them lol
THATS WHAT I SAID IN THE PARENT POST LOLLLLLLLLLL11??!01
Just strange to me that you’re going on about it but not a big deal
We’d love to, but manufacturers keep trying to force them down our throats. And when we express a different prererence or use case a bunch of trolls feel the need to pop out of the woodwork and tell us that no, we’re actually wrong and our use cases don’t actually exist.
How about you all don’t worry about what headphones other people are using?
I’m not? They’re listing all the reasons they don’t want them, so I’m saying the answer is easy. I personally prefer wire headphones, butI do have Bluetooth ones because they have their use case. I don’t understand why everyone’s so purist in the first place. They’re all tools, use what you need for the job
Yeah, it’s a risk. But, there’s also a risk of getting your wired earbuds cord caught on something. I’ve had that happen and it yanked the phone off the table and sent it crashing to the floor. I’ve also had the buds get yanked out of my ears multiple times.
If I lived somewhere where winters were mild, I might still use wired headphones. When you only have to worry about a t-shirt or something managing the cord isn’t too bad. But, when you have to manage a hat, scarf, coat, etc. there are just too many things to get in the way of the cord.
You know what’s easier than no cable? Not losing your ear buds
Haven’t been able to use ear buds outside of the house ever since they got rid of the jack
I’ve never lost one in at least a decade of using them. But, I don’t use the kind that just balance on the edge of your ear.
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Why are you so deep in your own bubble that you don’t believe that someone could simply prefer wireless? If that’s the case, you should get out more, meet more people, expand your horizons.
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The reason wireless earbuds took off is that phones with headphone jacks stopped getting made.
Consumers didn’t prefer wireless earbuds. They preferred thinner and more water-resistant phones.Lol, people downvoting you like they weren’t manipulated into spending 10x as much for a product that can’t be repaired, all in the name of profit.
For me personally, I got wireless earbuds because they removed all the damn phone jacks and I didn’t have a choice.
Fight! Fight! Fight!
That’s neat
The lost technology of the ancients is most glorious.
My earbuds are connected to a bt receiver that functions as a (not great, but okay) dac via usb too. Pro is that I can use the receiver with all my headphones, con is that it looks like an iPod shuffle gen 3
Both have their pros and cons. I miss my Westone 1 IEMs that I had back in college. My buddy’s dog chewed them up. They were comfortable and super light, had great sound quality, a cord that wasn’t obnoxious. Not having a cord is great though too especially when I’m working. Multipoint connection is great too. I can be listening to stuff on my phone with it in my pocket, no cable getting in the way, and when I get a call on Teams, my Pixel Buds just switch over to the computer.
There’s not gonna be any storage on it, though at that point there could be.
I think the purpose of it would be to control the device the headphones are connected to, rather than be the source of the media
Don’t the headphones already do that?
My guess would be that you could control things like playlist, shuffle, etc. Like a smartwatch interface but only for music.
Right, so it’s not really an iPod Nano.
I tried a pair of earbuds with the same idea from AliExpress. They had the regular controls, but also worked as e.g. a camera remote. Very cool if it had done anything it was supposed to do consistently, but unfortunately it was not well-implemented. If the AirPods Pro 3 (which I was already strongly considering) have a case with a screen that isn’t much larger than the Pro 2 case, I’ll probably buy that model.
But… My earpieces already have 2 touch zones and multiple press combinations.
so its basically an over-engineered version of this thing
But you see, that one has wires. We aren’t supposed to like wires.
Apple patents all sorts of weird shit. 99% of it never gets made. They just want the money from patent litigation and licensing.
There’s already an earphone with a display on the case like jbl, Tru wireless…Now if there was storage for music on them that would be nice.
It’s fake lol
The rendering is, but the patent isn’t.
Ya the fan art product shot is what I meant lol. Thanks for linking the actual patent (which I feel does have legs) was super annoyed OP linked that thing rather than the actual sketch 👊
Yeah, people always mock up these Apple patents. It’s practically guaranteed to happen when Apple files anything interesting or weird. Someone will model what they think the final product looks like.
No not like those, the difference is Apple did it first like every thing else they copied.