Yes, and I’m disgusted by people who threw their vote away or refused to vote blue over genocide despite the fact that things were clearly going to get worse under Trump. We’ve had this argument before and I’m not going to waste my time on it again.
In 2024, 155mn people voted, while 88mn didn’t out of the entire 243 mn eligible voting population.
Of that, 77 mn voted R, 75 mn voted D, and 3 mn voted 3rd party.
In 2020, 158 mn people voted, while 79 mn didn’t out of the entire 238 mn eligible voting population.
Of that, 81 mn voted D, 74 mn voted R, and 3 mn voted 3rd party.
Your claim is that the Uncommitted Movement had an impact in 2024 on the outcome of the election.
Wikipedia says that the movement got 700k votes. If we look to Ballotpedia, the Green Party received ~860k while the PSL received ~165k, meaning we can pretty much say those two parties captured the Uncommitted Movement’s voting block. That’s a total ~1 mn voters.
But JFK received ~760k votes in 2024 because he didn’t file to leave the election before endorsing Trump. And the Libertarians which I doubt have any affiliation with the Uncommitted Movement received ~650k. That’s a total ~1.4 mn voters.
The 3rd party vote didn’t make or break this election. You can see that in how many people voted 3rd party in 2024 compared to 2020 despite the voting population increasing.
No, I reject your claim. The Democrats lost 6 mn voters in 2024, and failed to capture the eligible voting population. This wasn’t the fault of people who give a shit about genocide.
Keep telling yourself that though while the Do Nothing Democrats roll over at every chance they get to aid and abet our fascist regime.
Your original post which I commented on said this:
Yes, and I’m disgusted by people who threw their vote away or refused to vote blue over genocide
Which is it?
The Uncommitted Movement was ~700k strong. Even if we assume the entire voting block didn’t cast ballots in 2024, meaning I don’t count them in the Green Party/PSL group, the impact of that would still only be less than 1 mn, which RFK and Libertarians similarly drew for their causes. It’s a rounding error whether or not they contributed to the outcome or not.
The real problem is why more people either 1) changed parties or 2) didn’t vote in 2024 when they did in 2020. Perhaps COVID had an effect in 2020, perhaps tightened voting laws had an effect in 2024, perhaps Democrats have now become Republican-lite, perhaps shit just sucks and there’s no time when people need to work.
It is a politician’s job to think about these things and determine a strategy best suited to acquiring power. If politicians don’t do that, they lose races.
Refusing to vote blue = vote red, green, PSL, RFK, literally anything else
Are we arriving at the issue at hand finally?
Your reading comprehension needs work.
Annnd classic troll move by resorting to insults instead of facts and claims at hand. How big of a waste of time you’ve been
Edit:
Unless you mean that both people that didn’t vote nor voted blue are disgusting to you, in which case whatever. Personal sentiments can’t fix hard facts. The more liberals like you cope, the more you’ll lose elections.
things were clearly going to get worse under Trump
It’s not reasonable to blame people for voting for change when the Democrats did nothing meaningful about poverty for four years and then blamed poor people for being angry about it. The 2024 election was simple cause-and-effect.
That’s what partisan Democrats don’t get. We were already at ‘things got worse’, and it happened under Biden.
It is incredibly stupid to value “change” on its own as a key metric. Some changes are good, some are bad, and some are mixed.
It’s like saying “I want to go fast” without specifying a direction. You want to get from NYC to Boston and on foot is too slow? Get on this jet, it’s a change of speed. Except the jet is going to LA. But it was a change!
Yes, and I’m disgusted by people who threw their vote away or refused to vote blue over genocide despite the fact that things were clearly going to get worse under Trump. We’ve had this argument before and I’m not going to waste my time on it again.
In 2024, 155mn people voted, while 88mn didn’t out of the entire 243 mn eligible voting population.
Of that, 77 mn voted R, 75 mn voted D, and 3 mn voted 3rd party.
In 2020, 158 mn people voted, while 79 mn didn’t out of the entire 238 mn eligible voting population.
Of that, 81 mn voted D, 74 mn voted R, and 3 mn voted 3rd party.
Your claim is that the Uncommitted Movement had an impact in 2024 on the outcome of the election.
Wikipedia says that the movement got 700k votes. If we look to Ballotpedia, the Green Party received ~860k while the PSL received ~165k, meaning we can pretty much say those two parties captured the Uncommitted Movement’s voting block. That’s a total ~1 mn voters.
But JFK received ~760k votes in 2024 because he didn’t file to leave the election before endorsing Trump. And the Libertarians which I doubt have any affiliation with the Uncommitted Movement received ~650k. That’s a total ~1.4 mn voters.
The 3rd party vote didn’t make or break this election. You can see that in how many people voted 3rd party in 2024 compared to 2020 despite the voting population increasing.
No, I reject your claim. The Democrats lost 6 mn voters in 2024, and failed to capture the eligible voting population. This wasn’t the fault of people who give a shit about genocide.
Keep telling yourself that though while the Do Nothing Democrats roll over at every chance they get to aid and abet our fascist regime.
No, I didn’t say that. I said that I’m disgusted by people who sat out.
You just said:
Your original post which I commented on said this:
Which is it?
The Uncommitted Movement was ~700k strong. Even if we assume the entire voting block didn’t cast ballots in 2024, meaning I don’t count them in the Green Party/PSL group, the impact of that would still only be less than 1 mn, which RFK and Libertarians similarly drew for their causes. It’s a rounding error whether or not they contributed to the outcome or not.
The real problem is why more people either 1) changed parties or 2) didn’t vote in 2024 when they did in 2020. Perhaps COVID had an effect in 2020, perhaps tightened voting laws had an effect in 2024, perhaps Democrats have now become Republican-lite, perhaps shit just sucks and there’s no time when people need to work.
It is a politician’s job to think about these things and determine a strategy best suited to acquiring power. If politicians don’t do that, they lose races.
They are the same thing. Your reading comprehension needs work.
Ok, here we go:
Throwing their vote away = not voting.
Refusing to vote blue != not voting
Refusing to vote blue = vote red, green, PSL, RFK, literally anything else
Are we arriving at the issue at hand finally?
Annnd classic troll move by resorting to insults instead of facts and claims at hand. How big of a waste of time you’ve been
Edit:
Unless you mean that both people that didn’t vote nor voted blue are disgusting to you, in which case whatever. Personal sentiments can’t fix hard facts. The more liberals like you cope, the more you’ll lose elections.
I stated clearly at the beginning that I wasn’t interested in arguing over my personal opinion. You’re the one wasting your own time.
It’s not reasonable to blame people for voting for change when the Democrats did nothing meaningful about poverty for four years and then blamed poor people for being angry about it. The 2024 election was simple cause-and-effect.
That’s what partisan Democrats don’t get. We were already at ‘things got worse’, and it happened under Biden.
It is incredibly stupid to value “change” on its own as a key metric. Some changes are good, some are bad, and some are mixed.
It’s like saying “I want to go fast” without specifying a direction. You want to get from NYC to Boston and on foot is too slow? Get on this jet, it’s a change of speed. Except the jet is going to LA. But it was a change!
Hitler junior was change so just let Hitler junior rule the country? That’s pretty stupid, my friend.
That’s how it works when your guy lets the majority of the country become significantly poorer. They care less about where the change comes from.
It’s not stupid. It’s cause-and-effect, specifically, what you get when you vote blue no matter who.
It is reasonable, because of what change meant in this scenario.