• taladar@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    People acting like the armed left isn’t preparing.

    Citation needed.

    But, more important, why does every motherfucker shooting their mouth off about this think that you win a fucking civil war by just going out and shooting things? Like, does nobody get that attacks need useful intelligence, planning, logistics, transportation, and it can’t be out in the open, you gotta either fight it guerilla, or you’re just dead.

    Exactly the point of everyone who ever pointed out that your guns are completely useless if your government ever goes off the rails.

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      1 hour ago

      Citation needed? Nice try CIA I ain’t no snitch.

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      3 hours ago

      After what happened to Fred Hampton, I doubt the armed left are going to pop their heads up publicly unless they’re ready to do something and know they’re not going to get whacked immediately.

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      3 hours ago

      I won’t believe the left is actually seriously preparing until I start seeing some Onion links around. We’re probably on a list just for using Lemmy, which is notoriously leftist, and talking about this stuff publicly, unveiled, with a registered account is honestly below Hegseth level OPSEC

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      4 hours ago

      Sorry, I forgot they were supposed to provide you personally with a detailed overview of their plans on a public forum lmao

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        4 hours ago

        I wasn’t the one who used the “the armed left is preparing” argument in a public forum. I just consider it a stupid argument to use if there isn’t any evidence that that is happening.

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            3 hours ago

            You know that words mean things and you can’t just use them randomly because you don’t like what someone said

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                1 hour ago

                If you’re worried that posting more than “nuh uh” publicly would negatively impact your ability to take action, then you’re in a position where you aren’t safe posting anything about it. Not even your little “nuh uh”.

                Either stop LARPing (because you aren’t part of any organizing), stop making yourself more vulnerable by posting shit like this (because you are part of something and being stupid posting this shit), or just save some time and turn yourself in because you’ve already fucked up.

                I have too much to lose to do anything drastic, but you all would be well served to do some serious learning about how criminals and hackers get caught, and how to protect yourself with proper opsec.

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                53 minutes ago

                Yeah, someone not believing the notion that the “armed left” is about to stage their insurrection is totally a ciamossadfbi spook. Maybe I am the spook and maybe you really have detailed information on when and where the United People’s Liberation Army of the Free and Democratic Republic of, I dunno, Eastern Minnesota will finally make their stand!

                Or maybe, everyone on this God damn platform is just LARPing.

                To quote some German songwriter: “Du hast Angst, dass sie dich töten, weil du einfach zu viel weißt. Ich hab Angst, dass du dir glaubst, dass du im Ernst so wichtig seist.”

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      8 hours ago

      Well, the other side of it is that it doesn’t matter how good your planning and logistics are if you only have rocks to throw when you get there

      Nobody with a lick of sense ever said that a civil war against an established and well equipped government was going to be fought on battlefields, lined up and infantry vs civilian infantry.

      And it takes more than guns, as the Iraqis and Afghanis showed. But calling guns useless in a revolution or civil war, much less as a resistance or insurgency is just stupid.

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        I feel like it’d have to be a lot like Vietnam, with vets communicating 1 on 1 with soldiers, convincing them not to side with the government (trump has marginalized vets, after all). A military coup would be the best case scenario here. You convert his military, you remove his power.

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        5 hours ago

        Guns are pretty much giving the government the excuse to just shoot you as a crazy gun nut (or extremist group,…) and shoot you without any morale repercussions in the people they use to do so and without any PR nightmare in the greater population for them.

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          51 minutes ago

          They’re already abducting and deporting academics on the flimsiest justifications based off social media posts disparaging Trump and/or Elon. We’re past the point that they need to label people something as heavy as gun nut to justify their actions.

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            2 hours ago

            Non-violent protests in large numbers would be one option. It is much harder to get the military or police to shoot a crowd of a few tens of thousands of unarmed civilians, especially when it is people from their own communities. And when you do it anyway you have a very hard time suppressing it in your and the international media.

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              What do non-violent “protests” do? Why would police ever really try to supress them if they don’t serve any purpose other than virtue signalling? Do you protesters expect Trump to stop ICE raids because “wow, I guess these signs with me drawn as a pig are really making me think”, or MAGA supporters to stop voting for him because you wasted your sunday out in the sun walking around?

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                53 minutes ago

                What do shootings do? Do you genuinely believe a couple of people with handguns or rifles are going to achieve anything at all?