Hey folks, We have been working on a project called InlineStyle

A European, open-source, fediverse based alternative to the Google ecosystem.

It’s a single platform with these services:

  • 📧 Email address @inlinestyle.it
  • 📹 Video sharing via PeerTube
  • 🎵 Music streaming with Funkwhale
  • 📝 Docs and Drive via Collabora/NextCloud
  • 📒 Markdown based notes
  • 🎮 Browser-based FOSS games (Celeste Classic, Tyrian, SuperTux, etc.)
  • 🌍 Static personal site hosting

All hosted in Europe. No telemetry, no ads, no corporate BS.

It’s not a startup pitch, just something we built because we got tired of being locked in.

The idea is to keep it sustainable with a simple support plan (€1.90/month) that unlocks upload features and personal email/webspace. Free tier available too, no login needed to browse.

🔗 https://www.inlinestyle.it/

🔗 https://mastodon.social/@inlinestyle

Would love your thoughts. What should I improve? What’s missing for you to consider switching?

Our goal is to try to build a real #DeGoogle fediverse based path that doesn’t feel like a downgrade. It will take time, but we are willing to try and stay committed to the mission.

  • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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    9 hours ago

    static personal site hosting

    name the thing “inline style”

    Pretty good catch there!

    Other than that while the overall idea sounds good, there are a few concerns, I’d like to have your feedback on these even if it’s not a definitive word - sometimes, “I don’t know” is the correct answer!

    .it

    that .it domain is kinda worrying given their recent stance on blocking or deleting parts of the internet to support the shareholders. Well, at least it’s not Spain, but do keep an eye on that.

    The idea is to keep it sustainable with a simple support plan (€1.90/month)

    Are there any considerations towards a one-time life payment on the horizon? It’s what ultimately drew me to SDF compared to the rest of the enshittifying internet, and they do provide similar services to what your roster seems to be so far.

    📝 Docs and Drive via Collabora/NextCloud

    May I recommend also Cryptpad? From my understanding NC+Collabora is a PITA to set up and prone to random failures (tho I would disclose the last time I tried the combo myself was on 2022). Cryptpad, while a lot simpler and less-featured, provides a leaner experience that approaches that of eg.: a pastebin.

    Others

    Some comments have mentioned chat. A XMPP server, like Prosody or ejabberd, is quite cheap and simple to run compared to “nu-protocols” like Matrix, and without having to go too far back into the 90s with something like IRC. Has good support for clients across the board as well, on Linux, Android, web, etc.

    Other than that the only differentiating factor I could think of offering that I have seem almost no one else do, is some sort of “math service”, something like an Octave or Maxima online if such thing exists, or like what Wolfram Alpha has online, where people can run calculations, plot function graphs, perhaps with support for spreadsheets and charts too, which would also function as an alternative to google charts and the like.

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      that .it domain is kinda worrying given their recent stance on blocking or deleting parts of the internet to support the shareholders. Well, at least it’s not Spain, but do keep an eye on that.

      Do you have further details on the topic? We’d like to learn more. FYI, We have a .it  domain simply because the service was born from Italians, and we are proud of the fact we built it in Italy, but the servers are in Germany

      May I recommend also Cryptpad?

      We might consider offering both Cryptad and NextCloud with a shared quota. Cryptpad is something we evaluated but discarded as it had a much smaller feature set compared to NextCloud and for the average user it wouldn’t have been as helpful. Our main goal is still to show that OSS solutions are a valid alternative to proprietary ones, so we need to start with services that are comparable in terms of features.

      Some comments have mentioned chat. A XMPP server,

      We will keep brainstorming more on the topic of Chats. But we are only going to provide a Chat service if it has a solid support for bridging with main stream chat services (opt-in obviously, we do recognize the risk they bring), we believe that it would be perceived as an inferior service if people were not able to talk with their usual friends and thus it’s better to not offer it compared to offering something that would damage the image of OSS based solutions.

      FYI, in our FAQ we currently suggest communick.com for services we don’t offer like Matrix, Lemmy and Mastodon.

      **Do you offer Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed and Matrix Chat services?**
         At the moment InlineStyle does not plan to offer support for social platforms that already easily available to users. 
         We think it wouldn't add any value to the community offering one more node of those services. 
         For PixelFed we suggest using pixelfed.social itself, while for Lemmy, Mastodon and Matrix you can try **Communick.com** which offers those at great prices.
      
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    Great idea! Two things

    • E2EE is a default in privacy by design so consider CryptPad for docs instead
    • change the name. Inline Style is terrible (sorry but to a native English speaker it sounds lame). How about just Inline?
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      I agree on the name, the further you get with this the harder it will be to change it so i feel adding a comment is worth the insult. Good thing you’re not jumping on the ‘eu first’ bandwagon with the name though, the more universal the service is the more value it has on a global scale. I think this is part of the reason why I dislike the name, as it is a bit of an inside ‘joke’. Don’t have a better suggestion though

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      We’ve been exploring the idea of adding a chat service. But we haven’t yet decided which protocol would provide the most value for most people.

      Right now, we’re considering XMPP and Matrix — both are solid, privacy-respecting options. Our goal is to offer something that lets people communicate with their existing contacts, not start from scratch.

      We’d love your input: what would you actually use? What works best in your daily setup?

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        Not sure I’d use either, but may I suggest both, with a clear caveat that one or both may disappear or change ? Throw stuff at the wall, see what sticks…

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        I find XMPP much more useful for day-to-day communication with people I know. Matrix has more IRC like public channels, but only a few are sufficiently active compared to Discord or even IRC.

        But running an XMPP server is also extremely hassle free and uses little server resources, while running a Matrix server is quite involved and will likely need a beefy dedicated server just for it alone.

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      Nextcloud’s E2EE support isn’t great. It does exist and is mentioned on their site but it has a lot of issues.

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    I see that .it domain 👀 siete italiani? Regardless it looks like a fantastic project, kudos! Especially interested in the static site hosting since right now I use an American service (Porkbun) for my own site, $30/year for 1 gb which is enough for me, but if I could switch to a European host for a similar price I totally would!

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    This is very interesting! I will keep an eye on this, and will most likely get a plan in the nearby future. Google is very convenient and fora while now I’ve been looking for something akin to the Google ecosystem but less… American.

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      What’s the encryption situation for personal side of the service ie email, docs etc?

      Currently, InlineStyle uses encryption in transit (TLS) across all services. We’re working on implementing encryption at rest, to ensure data remains inaccessible even in the event of a server breach.

      As for end-to-end encryption (E2EE):

      • Email: Not E2EE by default, but we support GPG for users who wish to secure their messages independently.
      • Docs: Currently no E2EE, and we don’t plan to add it for collaborative editing (due to the technical limitations it brings).
      • We are planning to introduce a dedicated “Locker” feature, where users will be able to store files with stronger protection, albeit without collaboration features.

      If strong E2EE is essential to your workflow, tools like Proton Mail and Proton Drive are great choices. Our focus with InlineStyle is more on access to fediverse content and everyday convenience: a suite that works out of the box for people looking for alternatives without giving up too much convenience.

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        Where possible I think E2EE should be the default. So if you want to collaborate on documents you have to explicitly check a box that might say, “By checking this box I understand that I am opting into additional features at the cost of encryption.”

        I think encryption should be at the core of this project because it (1) protects the admins from some liability if/when a breach occurs and (2) the whole point of trying to get away from Google and similar hosts is to keep them from using our own data against us.

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          Absolutely. End-to-end encryption will always be high on our roadmap.

          At the same time, we believe in a world where users shouldn’t have to encrypt everything just to protect themselves from the platform they’re using. Privacy should start with ethical intent, not just technical features. We don’t scan, monetize, or analyze user data. Not because it’s difficult, but because it’s wrong.

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          They’re hosting Nextcloud, it’s not realistic to expect them to fix/implement E2EE when the upstream project hasn’t been able to for the past few years.

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        This all sounds great, but everyone should keep in mind that we have NO way of verifying that the OP does not work for an intelligence agency.

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    I’ll keep an eye on this. Maybe even sub for minimalist usage. Currently use Proton Unlimited and probably at around ~200GB usage for storage and active use the VPN and email. But something fediverse is more interesting to me. I doubt it can suitably replace Proton for me now but it’s at least cheap. Nice to see cloud document/office stuff. Proton still doesn’t have a Linux sync application so that’s a weakness. Less sensitive stuff I’ll use Firefox sync for passwords but that Chrome web browser integration I think is a major feature for the Google ecosystem

    I know a lot of people are opposed completely to crypto but for privacy services I would prefer paying with crypto. I prefer numerous options but I generally think Monero should be the minimum. Maybe trocador.app to support more. I will probably sub with a credit card to check it out and support though