• Corn@lemmy.ml
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    Except the conservative the liberals were supporting, Hindenburg, won without the socialists support, while the socialists ran their own guy with the slogan “a vote for Hindenburg is a vote for Hitler is a vote for war”. And then Hindenburg put nazis in all the major positions of power, in the name of unity.

    History shows us:

    1. Liberalism creates the conditions for fascism
    2. Liberals would rather work with fascists than socialists.
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      It also shows us that socialists won’t compromise to meet liberals in the middle, while the right unifies.

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        No, Socialists will not compromise with the people handing power to the fascists. Our objectives are mutually exclusive, we want socialism, liberals want capitalism and will support fascists to maintain capitalism.

        Liberals are part of the right, Lenin was correct a century ago: social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.

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          Then you will lose to fascism and fascists kill socialists. The capitalism vs socialism debate is meaningless if democracy is lost.

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            The SDP were the next in the camps after socialists. Working with liberals cannot stop fascism because liberals create the conditions for fascism and would rather fascists in power than socialists.

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              And you would rather fascists be in power than work with liberals. It’s easier to blame others than to compromise for the greater good of stopping fascism. This attitude is exactly the problem I am talking about.

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                The two arent equivalent, because socialists dont work with fascists or create the conditions fir fascism like liberals do, and supporting liberals supports the rise of fascism.

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                  Liberals will work with whoever gives them the best chance to retain power. That could be socialists or fascists. By refusing to work with them, you leave the fascists as their only option to retain power. You create the exact environment fascism wants - a divided left.

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                    Liberals are not the left, the longer they remain in power, the more fascism grows. When liberals work with fascists, they give them power. When liberals tell socialists to work with them, they mean “shut up and help us maintain the conditions that give rise to fascism”. Do you think if the socialists supported Hindenburg, Hindenburg would have given power to the people who dont want billionaires to exist? I dont get how this isn’t getting through, working with liberals is just another path to fascism.