• LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    10 months ago

    I like how China isn’t even near the top despite producing all the shit for these countries.

    Edit: ComradeSalad is smart and actually reads things :)

    This doesn’t account for trades goods. China should be much higher and absolutely within the top 15 if you accounted for traded goods.

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      10 months ago

      This doesn’t account for trade goods. China should be much higher and absolutely within the top 15 if you accounted for traded goods.

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          That’s only consumption metrics. That is the exact same as this graph. Did you read the header of the graph you chose? It also excludes exports and traded goods.

          While they are consumed elsewhere, China still profits off of those produced goods. Do you think that the emissions from those factories aren’t concentrated?

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              They do, but the out sourcing isn’t what produces the carbon emissions, its the production itself.

              Is it immoral, yes. Is it unethical and a way to push the problem onto someone else? Yes. Does China still profit off of it, also yes. But the production is the source of the emissions, not some corporate entity.

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            I’m confused. I clicked on flamingoats Link and got a different set of data than was used for the graph above. What link did you see?

            Right in the middle of this, I think I realized that what you were saying is that the original post did not take into account trade at all, whereas Flamingoats Link did take into account trade and China was lowered. So are you saying that the two pieces of data align and if you were not taking away emissions from trade, then China would be higher?

            Because if that is true, then isn’t it more genuine to show the emissions that the citizens actually use? Because the emissions of Western countries are much higher because they’re exporting their manufacturing.