cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/9405812
“We are going to do something that I will say is slightly controversial but it shouldn’t be. We are going to indemnify policemen and precincts and states and cities from being sued. We want them to do their job. Our police and law enforcement has to come back and they want to come back and they want to do their job. And we are going to indemnify them so they don’t lose their wife, their family, their pension, and their job. We are going to indemnify policemen and law enforcement. We are going to tell them to get out, we love you, do your job.” – Trump, speaking last night at the New York Young Republicans Club gala.
Trump going after the tyrant vote.
“we’re gonna get all of the cops nice new uniforms and badges, cool badges with skulls on them, and we’ll teach them all to march around the streets and round up all the undesirables!”
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Rather like the Watchmen television show.
The Watchmen tv show was set in Tulsa? TIL.
Opens on the Black Wall Street massacre too, the location is very poignant to the story and themes.
PLEASE TREAD ON ME
NoOo It’S tHe DeMoCrAtS tHaT aRe ThE fAsCiStS!
/wrist
This would be setting fire to the first amendment.
Besides freedom of speech, of and from religion, the 1st recognizes our right to get redress from the government for grievance.
The government CAN NOT do whatever they want to us. That rule has been there the whole fucking time.
If Trump gets another term there won’t be a constitution any more.
And you will be assassinated for even mentioning exactly that. No prison. No court.
Trump continued:
“And so we can distinguish our brave police who have taken up our indemnification, we’ve designed a new uniform for them. They will have brown shirts and ties. i like brown, you like brown, everybody loves brown. And we will want a really good name, the best name for our brave Brownshirts. I was thinking something like the Storm Division. What do you think, isn’t that the greatest? I think it’s the greatest.”
but some pepple dont like division because it divides people. i dont agree but some say this. maybe it can be a team or a squad, like squad cars or storm squad. they can have a cool storm logo with a lightening bolt and use S S for super sexy, because thats what they are.
Only if it uses the cool S
Red shirt and brown pants are the best combo. Hides the stains if they ever get into an actual conflict
That sounds too close to Schutzstaffel to me (SS)
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EDIT: I’m not 100% sure that it’s not a real Trump quote and am second guessing myself
Nein, es sind völlig getrennte Wörter. Bist du George Orwell /s
There’s a lot to unpack in this statement, but the short of it is that he’s thinking like a terrorist- that the role of police is to instill fear and the thing keeping them from fulfilling it is that they fear being sued. He’s telling his supporters that he wants cops to do crimes with impunity
So pretty much keep the situation as-is? I mean it’s really not THAT far off right now.
Yes, dude. Things can indeed get very much worse.
I know, I know. Just saying US police is already fucked up bad right now
Let’s hope he loses and you don’t end up eating those words.
I think you were missing the point that US police is already horrible to begin with. Yeah it can be a shit tonne worse, I know, but that doesn’t mean it’s peachy right now
This is the problem with ACAB. Losing sight of what worse looks like
I’m not an acab guy, believe me. U was just trying to say that US police in general is already pretty horrible compared to any other western civilized country
Sorry, didn’t mean that to be the point of my thoughts, if it came out that way. I’d actually have to think about whether I feel that way. I also don’t know what western civilized means these days.
Buuut… the data shows this is a very American problem. Police murdering people is only pandemic here. Brutality, killing pets, racism… def universal… but executions… mmmmerica way ahead #1. Another accolade alongside school shootings…
Things are bad, but they could always be worse, so let’s accept the way things are…?
No I’m saying that by irresponsibly overusing superlatives like “all,” we remove the potency of the word. E.g., “today sucks and cops kill innocent people all the time, especially if you’re a person of color, disabled, mentally ill, or a dog. And the decent ones don’t upstand and report making them complicit for fear of self preservation, but not necessarily bastards. Good thing they’re not ALL murderers using their privilege to rampantly kill. Because that would be thousands times even worse”
It gets worse. This is not all. There is more.
The whole point of ACAB isn’t to label all police as bad people, nor to say this we’re in literally the worst situation we could be. It can always, always be worse. Americans, by and large, have an extremely limited worldview in which many have historically not seen the cracks in our foundations or been in a position where such cracks have directly affected them. The point is to highlight those cracks. Could there be more nuance? Surely. That nuance doesn’t fit well within a concise slogan of four letters, however. Unless NACBALOCAB - Not All Cops But a Lot of Cops Are Bastards - sounds good to you, haha
He wants them to blatantly mass arrest protesters, commit genocide, etc.
This nazi fuck needs to be thrown in prison.
You’re way too kind.
Are we the baddies?
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Stupid people really do think of the stupidest solutions to problems that don’t exist.
The hard thing is hearing it over and over and over again. How many times has this shit already been tried? What was the result? Oh, you don’t know? Does that not strike you as phenomenally negligent of a policy maker, to not be aware of the likely results of your fucking actions? Go die, you orange piece of shit. Or win, and take this fucking irreparable democracy with you.
Bold of you to assume he doesn’t know damn well how totalitarian this is.
Honestly, I’m 50/50. He is a controlling rich asshole and knows things like police don’t actually affect him, but he’s also a bumbling moron. It’s kind of hard to tell with him sometimes.
He’s not smart in the book sense but he does know how to play the game. For example, if you listened to the audio of his call to Zelensky which lead to his first impeachment investigation, pay attention and you might notice he avoided being explicit with his quid pro quo and spent the whole conversation beating around the bush and using weasel words to try and get what he could out of him without implicating himself. Even if the Senate trial wasn’t openly a farce, he still would’ve been found innocent because for something like this you have to be able to prove intent and that’s extremely difficult unless you blunder your way into an explicit admission of intent to commit a quid pro quo somewhere along the line, which he didn’t do in the audio of the phone call. I’m not saying it’s wrong to be suspicious because that call was obviously shady as hell, but it was never going to meet the burden of proof.
His propaganda and overall rhetorical strategy are similarly manipulative. It’s very common to mistake his lies for being stupid and obvious and assuming that’s just the end of it when in fact it’s actually a very specific rhetorical strategy called firehosing. The idea behind firehosing is to flood the entire system with too many political narratives, misdirections, pivots, red herrings, strawmen, contradictions, and controversial statements to keep up with so that everything is up in the air and the less regard for truth and consistency you have, the more effectively you can pull it off because the goal is to overcome reason with aggression while simultaneously drowning out opposing narratives and/or fact checking with sheer volume and repetition. It’s kind of like gish galloping but on a much more broad and ambitious scale, or if you’re as much of a gaming nerd as I am it’s the ‘zerg rush’ of political rhetoric. This explains why his falsehoods are so effective despite being so obvious - ironic as it looks on the surface he would actually be far less effective if he vetted his own bullshit and tried to make sure everything he said were at least semi-close to being believable.
Tl;dr, he’s a moron at some things. Manipulating millions of people and accumulating power at their expense (and ours as well even if we see through it) is, unfortunately, not one of them.
Criminal wants more police brutality. Idiots set to vote for Criminal come november.
Someone should explain qualified immunity to this chucklefuck. What’s next, he gonna tell us he would fight a war with no rules so he would win every time?
How brain dead do you have to be to even listen to his ravings let alone follow him and think he is a leader.
It’s one thing to claim police brutality isn’t that big of an issue. Still wrong, but not uncommon.
It’s another thing entirely to somehow be pro-police brutality.
What the fuck?
This is just the alt-right with masks off.
They haven’t had masks for decades, and it’s becoming more blatant. Reagan was the beginning of it all, honestly.
Nothing “alt” about it when it’s the likely GOP candidate for President next year.
That’ll get him a few more votes from the fence sitting fascists.
Funny how the " law and order group ", doesn’t give a damn about the constitution.
I’m not really sure what liberals are all concerned about. Don’t they have any faith that they can simply “fix” this inherently fascist institution - oops, sorry, I meant to say “law enforcement” - through “reform” and more “training?”
