People are now just accepting that COVID is part of our lives. It’s only a risk if you’re extremely elderly, obese or otherwise particularly infirm, in which case, you’re also vulnerable to bad flu’s, not just COVID.
COVID is not something that can be beaten. No amount of lockdowns or vaccines will eliminate it. You’d only be postponing the inevitable. Permanent lockdown would obviously be an unsustainable idea, even if it was a popular one and vaccinating COVID is like vaccinating flu, it’s impossible to keep up!
What is even the point of testing for COVID anymore? If you have bad symptoms, stay at home what ever sort of flu, cough or cold it might be!
Realistically if everyone (literally everyone) were given n95’s used them, and washed their hands any time they touch something someone else touched without touching their faces: we actually could beat things like COVID and the flu.
What makes it unrealistic is that people aren’t that far removed from monkeys, and behave like it.
Not even N95s. If people just did the bare minimum and wore a surgical mask and washed their hands frequently the instant they felt like they might be sick, we would work wonders to reduce spread, morbidity, and lost wages/productivity. We just need the same simple politeness around respiratory illnesses that already exists in some Asian nations.
I think that believing we could eliminate flu like viruses is extremely optimistic, but it’s not something I can really argue against because it’s just an opinion.
I mean, presumably you wear an N95 at all times and keep your hands meticulously clean, but when you get ill, it’s just some other idiots fault.
But if they were eliminated, flu’s are probably the most common things for keeping our immune system in practice. If we all had immune systems that are completely out of practice with dealing with viruses. What could go wrong?!
There are 18 HA sub types and 11 NA subtypes. The article implies that it was the lockdowns that specifically harmed the spread of the flu.
How long do you want us to be locked down for in the attempt to eliminate the other 28 and the COVID variants too? Please consider that it would have to be a world wide lockdown.
I understand that many people people are happy to swap their freedom for an idea of safety, but many others value their freedom too highly.
Please understand that I’m not saying that the measures against COVID weren’t effective. I’m saying that total eradication of COVID is an unatainable target.
Countries like Japan and Korea wear face masks as a normal part of their cultures and dirty behaviour is extremely frowned upon there. They still have flu and COVID.
Ok and my implication was that even with compulsory N95s and diligent hand washing that it would still be optimistic.
Are you wearing an N95 at all times you’re in the vicinity of others and disinfecting your hands any time you’ve touched something that’s been near yours or someone else’s face? Because if not you’re nothing but a virtue signalling hypocrit.
I feel like you haven’t thought this through. My cousin is young so he has very low risk of having serious side effects from his COVID. The thing is we had elderly grandparents at Christmas as well, one of which with stage 4 cancer.
There is a point to testing for COVID. If we don’t test for it we have no idea how much it is spreading.
I used to get the flu once every 10 years, roughly. I’ve been getting COVID nearly every single winter.
There are relatively young people who are completely bedridden from long COVID. I’ve never heard of someone having years of their lives taken from them because of the flu.
Ever since I first got COVID I have had a irregular heartbeats and periods of extremely low energy
I find it funny you’re creating a false dichotomy of either locking people in their homes for eternity or being free. We all had a chance to stop this in its tracks, nearly everyone around me was completely unable to sacrifice one summer of vacations. I know people who literally went on vacation knowing they had COVID, breaking state laws in the process.
If you didn’t lose anybody to COVID that’s great for you, but a lot of us did.
A lot of people believed our president at the time who said that it was nothing more than the flu, similar to what you are saying today.
I believe there should be legal repercussions for those who have spread that misinformation, leading to needless death
I don’t think that at all.
People are now just accepting that COVID is part of our lives. It’s only a risk if you’re extremely elderly, obese or otherwise particularly infirm, in which case, you’re also vulnerable to bad flu’s, not just COVID.
COVID is not something that can be beaten. No amount of lockdowns or vaccines will eliminate it. You’d only be postponing the inevitable. Permanent lockdown would obviously be an unsustainable idea, even if it was a popular one and vaccinating COVID is like vaccinating flu, it’s impossible to keep up!
What is even the point of testing for COVID anymore? If you have bad symptoms, stay at home what ever sort of flu, cough or cold it might be!
Realistically if everyone (literally everyone) were given n95’s used them, and washed their hands any time they touch something someone else touched without touching their faces: we actually could beat things like COVID and the flu.
What makes it unrealistic is that people aren’t that far removed from monkeys, and behave like it.
Not even N95s. If people just did the bare minimum and wore a surgical mask and washed their hands frequently the instant they felt like they might be sick, we would work wonders to reduce spread, morbidity, and lost wages/productivity. We just need the same simple politeness around respiratory illnesses that already exists in some Asian nations.
Do those Asia nations not have COVID or flu’s?
I think that believing we could eliminate flu like viruses is extremely optimistic, but it’s not something I can really argue against because it’s just an opinion.
I mean, presumably you wear an N95 at all times and keep your hands meticulously clean, but when you get ill, it’s just some other idiots fault.
But if they were eliminated, flu’s are probably the most common things for keeping our immune system in practice. If we all had immune systems that are completely out of practice with dealing with viruses. What could go wrong?!
We literally did beat one of the flu variants due to COVID prevention measures.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/09/covid-may-have-pushed-a-leading-seasonal-flu-strain-to-extinction/
You said did. The article said may have.
There are 18 HA sub types and 11 NA subtypes. The article implies that it was the lockdowns that specifically harmed the spread of the flu.
How long do you want us to be locked down for in the attempt to eliminate the other 28 and the COVID variants too? Please consider that it would have to be a world wide lockdown.
I understand that many people people are happy to swap their freedom for an idea of safety, but many others value their freedom too highly.
Please understand that I’m not saying that the measures against COVID weren’t effective. I’m saying that total eradication of COVID is an unatainable target.
Countries like Japan and Korea wear face masks as a normal part of their cultures and dirty behaviour is extremely frowned upon there. They still have flu and COVID.
Yes, the last line of my comment very clearly addressed why it’s unrealistic.
Ok and my implication was that even with compulsory N95s and diligent hand washing that it would still be optimistic.
Are you wearing an N95 at all times you’re in the vicinity of others and disinfecting your hands any time you’ve touched something that’s been near yours or someone else’s face? Because if not you’re nothing but a virtue signalling hypocrit.
I feel like you haven’t thought this through. My cousin is young so he has very low risk of having serious side effects from his COVID. The thing is we had elderly grandparents at Christmas as well, one of which with stage 4 cancer.
There is a point to testing for COVID. If we don’t test for it we have no idea how much it is spreading.
I used to get the flu once every 10 years, roughly. I’ve been getting COVID nearly every single winter.
There are relatively young people who are completely bedridden from long COVID. I’ve never heard of someone having years of their lives taken from them because of the flu.
Ever since I first got COVID I have had a irregular heartbeats and periods of extremely low energy
I find it funny you’re creating a false dichotomy of either locking people in their homes for eternity or being free. We all had a chance to stop this in its tracks, nearly everyone around me was completely unable to sacrifice one summer of vacations. I know people who literally went on vacation knowing they had COVID, breaking state laws in the process.
If you didn’t lose anybody to COVID that’s great for you, but a lot of us did.
A lot of people believed our president at the time who said that it was nothing more than the flu, similar to what you are saying today.
I believe there should be legal repercussions for those who have spread that misinformation, leading to needless death