• lemonaz@lemmy.world
    351·
    24 hours ago

    He’s also not a billionaire. Him and Jimmy Wales are true heroes of our time. Their work has shaped the modern world yet their fortunes are nowhere near even a single billion. It seems almost absurd and dumb on their part that they didn’t even make 1 billion in decades given their impact, but turns out that’s just the normal rate of accumulation when you don’t just sell out or steal the work of others.

      • Avicenna@programming.dev
        1·
        14 hours ago

        Don’t know what his deal is and why he acted as such but the page is still there as is and it helped inform likely hundereds of thousands of people. Don’t know if he had a change of heart but he created something larger than himself so that is fine. Just telling this so that people don’t misdirect their anger against wikipedia.

      • how_we_burned@lemmy.zip
        1·
        20 hours ago

        Considering his lack of public statements and actual support for Israel and zionism I’d argue your wrong.

        Conservatively moderating a shit show that is Israeli subject matter is one thing (and I’ve been banned from reddit for pointing out how bat shit insane zionism is) but actively supporting the regime is a completely different thing.

    • Saprophyte@lemmy.world
      2·
      10 hours ago

      Super popular tv show from the 90s with Jennifer Anniston (from Office Space), Courtney Cox (from Scream) and a bunch of other schmucks that I can’t remember.

    • ray@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      145·
      2 days ago

      It’s a class that’s allowed to access another class’s private members. Obviously Linus doesn’t have any, because he codes in C.

      • Redkey@programming.dev
        13·
        2 days ago

        Private members aren’t actively blocked from external access; they’re passively marked “Access prohibited”.

        That means that rather than being unable to find the members of a class, C programmers simply can’t pick up on the signals telling them that they’re not wanted.

        (Fellow C programmers: I’m joking. :D)

    • M137@lemmy.world
      12·
      1 day ago

      I actually made three new friends on new years eve completely through mentioning Linux. We were at a party and I had a really bad year last year so I was rusty in the “talking to people” department, the few people I knew there, who are indie games devs that don’t use Linux, said something (can’t remember exactly what) that made me reply with a Linux joke and those three people moved their chairs closer to me with a “ooooh, a linux nerd, let’s fucking go” energy. We went on such a nerd dive that they party host told us that we aren’t allowed to talk Linux anymore or we’d have to leave.
      We talked a lot more through the night and had to really concentrate to not get thrown out, haha.

      • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        1 day ago

        We aren’t allowed to talk Linux anymore or we’d have to leave

        I get this, in my own house. We need speakeasy for linux.

    • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
      30·
      2 days ago

      It’s a second user account on your machine. Of course, you don’t put them in the sudoers file.

  • AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip
    75·
    2 days ago

    Linus would be too busy chewing Epstein out in a mailing list and then banning him from it permanently if they were friends.

  • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
    122·
    2 days ago

    I’m genuinely baffled how many oligarchs had contact with Epstein. I do believe their primary job qualification is a lack of morals, but there’s so many ways to be amoral, you don’t have to all be friends with the guy that offers pedophilia.

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
      8·
      1 day ago

      Epstein’s “day job” was being a socialite. He was the guy who knew everybody. If you wanted an introduction, he could do it. He was the guy who made sure that the riff raff stayed out, even if they were rich.

      I’m pretty sure that everybody knew he was always around “young women”, but I strongly suspect that most of the people he interacted with didn’t know about the child sex abuse. They were there for his “rolodex”.

      But, the end result is that because he was the guy who knew everybody in a position of power, his network shows who has the power. My guess is that at least half the people he had in his network were not into child sex abuse, and didn’t know that he was involved in that. But, I have only the world’s tiniest violin to play for those people. I think they’re guillotine-worthy because of their abuses of power, and how they hoarded obscene amounts of wealth. For far too long, the ultra rich have had a good public image in the US. People should have been furious with them just for hoarding all that wealth. And, the Epstein folks are the ones who not only hoarded the wealth, but spent it to gain power, which they used to warp society to benefit themselves. So, now everybody’s disgusted with them and hates them, it’s for the wrong reasons, but at least they’re hated.

      • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        20 hours ago

        Epstein’s “day job” was being a socialite.

        …

        because he was the guy who knew everybody in a position of power, his network shows who has the power.

        Exactly. He was actively seeking out wealthy and influential people to add to his circle of influence.

    • herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml
      45·
      2 days ago

      Epstein was not just a pedo pimp. He was a power-broker and a fixer for the American and Israeli rich elites. Not everyone was in for the girls, some of them were in for the other illegal stuff.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
      911·
      2 days ago

      What this whole thing has taught me is that there is a market among billionaires for someone to peddle enslaved kids.

      Now epstein is gone, and has been for years, but that demand doesn’t just die. I don’t have proof, but there is zero doubt in my mind that epstein is not a one and done. There’s either another epstein, or more likely a dozen smaller epsteins out there.

      There’s a part of me that thinks all these ICE abducting kids is being done at trumps order, specifically as a means to replace epstein.

      • Avicenna@programming.dev
        1·
        14 hours ago

        Epstein was likely embedded into this system as a black mailing agent by someone who already knows it.

        The ICE part seems a bit extreme though. I think the whole reason ICE is allowed to act like this is to terrorise immigrants, ethnic minorities etc so they leave the US in their own accord. And what easier way to terrorise people than to stalk their kids like a bunch of pedos.

      • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 day ago

        I don’t think there’s any reason to find a replacement for Epstein. There’s almost certainly other people already running those sorts of events. Jared Leto has a sex cult island. I think they’re all consenting adults, but you know he’s trading favors to producers that want to visit so he can keep getting movie roles.

      • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
        22·
        1 day ago

        So Qanon was partially right? Just named the wrong people

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
          7·
          1 day ago

          Qanon was correct in the same way your conspiracy theorist uncle was right about MKULTRA. There’s a quick summary that can give a pretty big overlap of them and reality, but that’s not why these people believe this, and the more details, context, or scope you add the less they align.

          Qanon is an intellectual descendant of the satanic panic, and the framing it uses is very much in that line of thinking. It’s framing it as political enemies raping young children as part of a dark ritual that involves blood libel.

          The Epstein situation in contrast is that the rich, powerful, and influential run in overlapping social circles and within them there are people whose role is to facilitate connections (Peter Thiel actually facilitates a similar role). These people may also facilitate other connections like drugs (there’s so much drugs in the Epstein stories) and pimping. The pimping for the elite, at least by one of these people, also seemed to disproportionately traffic adolescents and many of the rich, powerful, and influential clients, friends, and connections of this man seemed to either partake in his underage victims or knowingly look the other way in order to maintain these beneficial connections.

          Both of these are very bad things involving the rich and powerful engaging in pedophilia, but the former is utterly fantastical and originates in a panic with no evidence and itself lacks evidence, while the latter is a realistic situation that has a lot of evidence for it

          • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            It’s quite interesting. My great grandmother apparently used to talk about the Roman Catholics abusing children and mothers in the Magdalene Laundries and people saw her as a crazy conspiracy theorist.

            Squid Game in a way is also a story about the rich elite participating in sickening immoral activities

            • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
              3·
              1 day ago

              That’s the thing, some conspiracy theories are going to be true, most aren’t, and some will bear a passing resemblance to the truth.

              The main tool at our disposal here is skepticism. Are the claims being made plausible? Are the motivations realistic? Is there evidence from reputable sources? Am I approaching this with a critical mindset? Am I focused on the explicit claims, or am I allowing people to “yes and” this? Am I letting my emotions or preconceived biases and prejudices cloud my judgment?

    • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works
      352·
      2 days ago

      Beyond just the pedophilia, his (Epstein) operation was largely one of socialising, and securing (probably coerced) introductions from people he helped facilitate and now held blackmail over.

      e.g. using blackmail material on a Bill Gates to secure an introduction to another wealthy and influential individual, offering them a “massage” and then producing kompromat at a later date to bring them into his circle.

      Now don’t get me wrong, everyone who found themselves in this position was a willing participant, not a victim - but I can understand how so many oligarchs eventually found their way into his little black book.

    • Avicenna@programming.dev
      11·
      2 days ago

      Just oligarchs? Oligarchs don’t suprise me at all. The more surprising aspect is so many artists, scientists etc. I guess humans have a weakness for someone who makes them feel like a privileged member of a boy’s club.

      • 3abas@lemmy.world
        142·
        2 days ago

        Noam Chomsky, that’s what broke my faith in humanity. His work in linguistics is why I’m a computer scientist, his work in political activism was my introduction to leftist theory, so much of what I do and think every day is directly influenced by his work.

        Turns out at the end of the day he’s a neo-liberal apartheid supporting hypocrite and possibly a pedophile.

        • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          31·
          1 day ago

          I’m kinda surprised that him proposing that the US should throw Ukraine to the wolves (Russia) didn’t completely tank his career. In hindsight, for the past 20 years he’s kinda just turned into a tankie (or at least tankie-adjacent) due the the US’s misdeeds in Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

          While the US has done wrong, that doesn’t automatically make its adversaries right.

        • Avicenna@programming.dev
          3·
          1 day ago

          Yeah it sucks. Don’t know if you are still in the field but I guess best reaction to this would be to set a better example in your corner of the world. Take what is good leave what is shitty and make sure to inform people who don’t know.

          • 3abas@lemmy.world
            3·
            1 day ago

            I’m way further left now, but I still recommend Manufacturing Consent as an essential reading, as it opened my eyes to how the rich controlled media shapes narratives and enables genocides and destructive imperial wars and regime changes. It’s just hard to recommend it now with his name attached.

            • prof_tincoa@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
              3·
              1 day ago

              I want to argue that there was no reason to recommend him before. Nothing will change my mind that Manufacturing Consent (1988) was written to distract from Inventing Reality (1986). Only one of those books has a dedicated Wikipedia page, and it’s not the one written by the communist.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
      6·
      1 day ago

      Pre 2008 conviction contacts can be excused by ignorance. E.g. Stephen Hawking visited Epstein Island with other scientists in 2006.

      Gates was happy to make house visits to Epstein in 2011-2014

      • Avicenna@programming.dev
        1·
        14 hours ago

        I think people still could have still realised that if you get into a social circle involving many billionaires, you are getting into a shitty circle. This guy sort of tried to act as saint patron of science by handing out influential scientists favours. I think that was just PR and may have probably delayed his actual demise (i.e “a guy loved by many famous scientists and artists around the world, surely he can’t be bad”). Granted definitely not as bad as going to a place where you know there is sex trafficking. But still this looks like people not being able to contain themselves when someone promises to make them a member of an exclusice elite boy’s club.

        • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          5·
          1 day ago

          Our previous president son is on the files. There was a news article where he explained that Epstein had contacted him for fundraising or some other legal thing and they met somewhere once for a short while but that’s all. There was also other finns, like one young woman who applied for an assistant job on some of his businesses but didn’t get hired.

          So, while there’s a crapload of people who should be convicted and thrown in a jail there’s also a ton of people who don’t have anything to do with pedo-ring or anything else. Good to keep in mind that having someones name on the files alone doesn’t mean too much.

          And just to avoid any confusion, if you are mentioned in the files more than Jesus is mentioned on the bible it’s not an accident or one time thing. Allegedly that applies at least to Trump and there should be a small and dark cell somewhere ready.

  • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
    60·
    2 days ago

    If he’s in the files it’s strictly to tear Jeffers apart for submitting a shit code patch and wasting his time.

      • HereIAm@lemmy.world
        12·
        1 day ago

        Jpeg XL is such an unsexy name though. (In my opinion) JPEG is already seen as an ancient format, there are plenty of even main stream memes about it’s artifacting quirks. And now you just want to slap more stuff on it? Make it extra large. Sounds like bloat to me!

        To be real for a second; I’m sure it’s a fine format and suited for the future, but the name really does put me off it a bit 😄

        • pineapple@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          19 hours ago

          I do kinda agree. That’s everyones first impression when I talk about it. So you want bigger jpeg?

          Just call it jxl I think.