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John Phillips had made it through TSA, had his ID checked and went through facial recognition before agents stopped him as he was boarding, he said.
He says after about five minutes in handcuffs, agents found his Georgia ID and showed him a picture of the man they were actually looking for. “He looks nothing like me, other than that he’s a white guy and I’m a white guy,” Phillips said
Delta and TSA were cooperating with ICE, so at any time through this process, ICE could have examined his ID and compared their faces and everything they needed to figure out he wasn’t the guy they were looking for, but it was only after they “pinned him to the wall and put him in handcuffs” and screamed at him, did they look at his ID and decide he wasn’t their guy.
What this tells us is that they went through with roughing him up, terrifying him, and inducing PTSD just because they wanted to and knew they could get away with it. They knew he wasn’t the person they were looking for, but they weren’t going to pass up a chance to have their fun. Sick pieces of shit.
In addition to the reasons you’ve brought up, it’s also a public display of violent enforcement in an effort to further subdue the populace.
Sounds like this guy has a nice lawsuit on his hands.
Unfortunately, he’ll be in a long line and either nothing will happen or it go on for years.
But in 2057 he’ll get a compensation package of like $3,000 and that’s it
But in 2057 he’ll get a compensation package of like $3,000 and that’s it
No one cares. Let me reiterate, no one cares beyond a “thoughts and prayers” bullshit sentiment. They just go “it wasn’t me so it isn’t my problem” until it’s them and no one helps them and they can’t figure out why.
Not trying to encite violence, but until people are actually DONE with this shit it won’t change and probably get worse. I don’t mean hold signs, no one gives a flying crap that you’re walking around with a sign. Nothing has changed from a sign since the civil rights movement.
Nothing has changed from a sign since the civil rights movement.
I hope you don’t mean to imply that the civil rights movement was won with chants and signs because it very much wasn’t.
Then go do something. I want to see you on the news.
But I thought the revolution would not be televised.
If you don’t understand why, it’s always money and corruption for money that drives this administration:
Corporate owners of ICE detention centers report another revenue surge
“Last year was the most successful period of business wins in our company’s history and we expect 2026 to continue to be very active as well,” said George Zoley, chairman and CEO of the GEO Group, during a call with investors.
Delta claiming their role is to ensure customers are treated with respect is hilarious considering they helped ICE jump this guy and slam him against a wall
They’re fully complicit because they fear the fascist regime. Looking forward to the day big corporations fear a progressive regime
Your blame is misplaced.
Literally 100% of all airlines, both US and EU are required to comply with TSA and European Commission individual EU countries flight security.
Compliance with TSA means allowing TSA to hand over control to ICE whenever they want and there is absolutely nothing a single airline can do about it. If you think they can, then don’t fly ever again.
Compliance to order doesn’t absolve you of blame, though?
I can’t recall anything famous about just following orders.
It sounds like a good original excuse.
Then we’re all to blame because we all comply with the law or risk going to jail and fines.
If it’s in the process of doing something illegal, then yes, you are to blame.
Except that’s the neat part. There is nothing illegal about “airline x do not allow that passenger to board” as an order from TSA that’s entirely legal thing. You have no “right” to fly and TSA has the completely authority to manage passengers. And this isn’t new at all, we’re talking Bush administration
ICE detaining and assaulting a US citizen is entirely illegal though.
I feel one issue that is being ignored is we don’t know who from the airline was initially involved and what they were told. What we do know is ICE is notorious for being duplicitous.
While Delta is just another vehicle for the accumulation and concentration of wealth, its employees, the people with whom TSA and ICE directly interface, are largely everyday people like you and I. Without more information, those criticizing the actions of the airline and by extension its employees are doing such based on assumption. They’re likely victims of ICE as well, if to a much lesser degree.
Yeah. Obstructing a federal agent is also a crime. Look at that judge who let someone out a side door instead of getting picked up by ICE. She was arrested and charged.
ICE is not TSA. They’re both under DHS, but that’s where the similarity ends
Further, not even the TSA can compel airlines to do cooperate in an arrest
ICE is not TSA. They’re both under DHS, but that’s where the similarity ends
Agreed, never said they were.
Further, not even the TSA can compel airlines to do cooperate in an arrest
If you read the report or watch the video in the link, Delta never had anything to do with the arrest itself.
If an officer of TSA or European Commission individual EU countries flight security asks an airline to defer boarding or step aside, they’re required, literally by law to do it:
“The ATSA gives the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) the direct authority to oversee civil aviation security, issue binding security directives to air carriers, and enforce mandatory compliance without prior notice or public comment.”
The answer is literally in writing and is agreed upon internationally.
Moral or not, agreeable or not, it is the law.
Get the f@!% out of here with this sober logic and reasonable context. We are trying to nurture reddit nerd outrage and stupidity here.
For anyone who may be affected by this type of tactic: delta deals with the upgrades before the boarding process starts, and never will tell you you have to board last. If they tell you that you have to board last, be prepared for some bullshit.
Well your first mistake is letting them use facial recognition on you… But also fuck the pigs
